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OuabainofTunare
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(5/23/02 10:10 am)
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Naoh and his anti-Semitism
So, I was bored reading through these flames and ran across several of Naoh D's posts. On his signature pic, he has a Swastika. These can be viewed under the recent "shitlist" and "favorite songs" flames. WTF is wrong with you, Naoh? How truly intolerant, ignorant, and close-minded. Think you are being funny? I think not. Nor do I think that any other Jewish or racism-hating players will. You are your fellow anti-Semites truly disgust me. This is my first post on flameboards, so please don't try and flip this around on me.

Thanks,

Ouabain, 57 enchanter

Naoh D
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(5/23/02 10:13 am)
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Re: Naoh and his anti-Semitism
It's the Indian symbol for sun.

kiemo
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(5/23/02 10:23 am)
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ummm
Naoh pic isnt the nazi swastika. Rotate it a bit and it becomes one though.



Illystra
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(5/23/02 10:24 am)
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Re: ummm
It's old hat. Didn't Darrian use that for a while last year?

OuabainofTunare
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(5/23/02 10:26 am)
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Naoh and his anti-Semitism
Go into a synagogue or Israel and try to explain that, you prick. Every symbol has it's origins, but the fact remains that the modern representation of the Swastika is not "sun" or "being good," etc. It is undoubtedly the representation of an Era of ant-Semitism and unrelentless racism. My boot represents walking, but if you like, I can interpret it right up your a$$.

Ouab. One pissed off elf.

Illystra
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(5/23/02 10:32 am)
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It's explained just fine. My family is Jewish, and I respect my hebrew heritage. Honestly, I'm just amused. He's trying so hard to be controversial, so he pulls a page from Darrian's book.

Naoh D
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(5/23/02 10:33 am)
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Re: Naoh and his anti-Semitism
Go fuck yourself, Jew.

The rebel flag represents the views of the Rebels in the Civil war. One of these views happens to be that blacks are not people, but property. You don't have to agree with all the views of something to display pride in it. People who aren't racist one bit still wave the flag in some parts of this nation.

The swastika is the same way.

There's a lot more to the National Socialist worker's party than just Jew hating.

Sildaan
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(5/23/02 10:33 am)
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Settle down child. Just because your feeble mind does not understand the concept of things having multiple meetings don't take it out on Naoh. Take it out on your Special Ed. teacher.

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It is undoubtedly the representation of an Era of ant-Semitism and unrelentless racism


No, undoubtedly most of the patrons of this message board are infinitely more enlightened than you are about the world around us.




fundysk1
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(5/23/02 10:36 am)
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Noah,

You are a dumbas s.

By the way, here's the original definition of the swastika:

The word "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit svastika - "su" meaning "good," "asti" meaning "to be," and "ka" as a suffix.

I guess you feel that all the skinheads who vandalized the homes and stores of blacks, jews, and anyone they disliked were just spray painting the sun god's symbol. Since the early 20th century when nationalist germans embraced the swastika as a symbol of their aryan continuity, there is no other way to view the swastika. Unless when you see a cross, you think of the egyptian ankh, instead of associating it with christianity.

To view the swastika as anything other than a nazi symbol is naive at best, perverse and anti-semitic at worst.

Oh and by the way, that is the way the nazi's used the swastika. Don't believe me, go here:

history1900s.about.com/li...20699a.htm

Naoh D
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(5/23/02 10:40 am)
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I don't hate Jews or blacks any more than I hate whites.

fundysk1
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(5/23/02 10:42 am)
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You PRETEND that it's not a racist symbol and then counter with "Go @#%$ yourself, Jew."

You wanna take your hate out on someone, come for me you piece of shiit. You, and others like you, don't deserve the right to fuc king live.

And Sildaan, take pride in calling Naoh enlightened, just shows how naive you truly are.

Naoh D
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(5/23/02 10:47 am)
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Re: Naoh and his anti-Semitism
There was nothing racist about that statement.
It was just so that people could know who I was talking to.
I don't have hate for anyone, else I might be tempted to take it out on joo.

Naoh D
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(5/23/02 10:49 am)
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Before you attack the National Socialist worker's party, at least know what they stand for.


The Points

OuabainofTunare
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(5/23/02 10:50 am)
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Illystra...
I'm not here to try and flame anyone but Naoh, so I'm not going to attack you. That's not who I am. But I do feel I should address one of your comments...

"He's trying so hard to be controversial, so he pulls a page from Darrian's book."

First of all, I don't know Darrian. If he posted something similar, then good for him. I can not believe that anyone would support Naoh, especially after his "go fu ck yourself, Jew" comment. If being opposed to inequality and hatred is being "controversial," then perhaps you should examine some of the other posts. I posted what I feel to be a legitimate grievance. If you have never been the target of racism, agism, sexism, anti-Semitism, etc, then good for you. Consider yourself lucky. But please don't try to belittle my attempts at defending myself and others.

Sildaan, perhaps I am not "enlightened" in your context. Yes, I am fully read up on what the Swastika represents, its origins and meanings. In my context, however, "enlightenment" incites higher learning, tolerance, and advancement.

Naoh, perhaps you should read the text under the link you yourself posted. Points 5, 6, 7 are both anti-Semitic and xenophobic.

Edited by: OuabainofTunare at: 5/23/02 10:56:49 am
Illystra
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(5/23/02 10:52 am)
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Re: Illystra...
You only giving him the attention he so craves. Honestly, it's amazing how over the course of a week he went from an entertaining flamer to an idiot.

Naoh D
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(5/23/02 10:53 am)
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Re: Illystra...
Once again, I don't hate Jews or blacks.

Though, I'm sure I can make an exception for you.

Naoh D
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(5/23/02 10:54 am)
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Re: Illystra...
Exactly how did I go to an idiot? By using a swastika as my personal photo?

Aside from the racism, I like the National Socialist worker's party.

Oh, and thanks. I never knew I was entertaining.

Illystra
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(5/23/02 10:57 am)
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Re: Illystra...
Psst. Learn your history, dear. The National Socialist party was founded on anti-semetic principles.

Now, if you're saying you like true socialism, that's fine, and a political debate. But anti-semetism and the National Socialists go hand in hand.

Kinda like saying you like the bible without God.

Naoh D
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(5/23/02 11:01 am)
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Re: Illystra...
NO SHIT?

Ok. Sorry for the sarcasm.

I know that's what they were founded on.

Oklahoma was made for the purpose of moving out Indians and putting them there. Does that mean I should still think Oklahoma is immoral?

Ok. That's a bad example, but maybe you can see what I'm saying. Some things are founded on bad principles, but could be good if just those bad things were removed.

JialesseCleric
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(5/23/02 11:02 am)
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The symbol only has the power that you give it.

If you give it the power to offend... then that is YOUR doing, not Naoh's. He has already said he is using it because it is the symbol of the sun, you can accept that or not. Darrian used it a long time ago because he likes to stir up sh*t.

I, personally, believe his f*** you comment was sarcastic. I have never seen Naoh post anything racist that wasn't sarcastic or in gest.

Just like in the other thread when someone called me a whore. Does that make me a whore? No. Should I be offended by that? Well, I suppose I could be, but the fact is I was entertained instead of offended because the dip who said it does not have the power to offend me.

Perhaps instead of being offended you could try laughing at his ignorance. Or even pitying him for his ignorance. But by allowing it to cause you offense, you have given him and the symbol that power.

Naoh, go lick your own balls!

will that offend him? turn him on? or make him laugh? Only Naoh can determine that. All I can do is put the statement out there - its up to him to give it meaning.

fundysk1
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(5/23/02 11:06 am)
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Re: Naoh and his anti-Semitism
Naoh,

How does it feel to live in fear? To live in ignorance? I think neofascist/neonazis are some of the most entertaining people to watch. You follow a leader, Hitler, who does not meet the criteria for being a member of the Nationalist Socialist Party (he's not aryan, but part-jewish), and your party name is wrong. I guess most of them aren't smart enough to tell socialism apart from nationalism. Does it really hurt that much that your whole ideal was cast aside by the rest of the world, that you have to live your entire existence in denial? But then again, I guess you still feel like the South won the war.

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