okay you are wanting a charm right well i gots a real one but you cant have it but i got my friend one of the mall if you live in e-ville go to the eastland mall to the first both you see as you walk in the front doors they have some and cheap the only diff is it dont have phy on the back but they are fresh at least until you can get a real one for shore i even got on of the hatch man rings there so hope you get one soon try to get back with me and let me know if you dont want to do that maybe i will think of selling mine cause i want to get a gold one at the gathering anyways but that is something i will have to sleep on mfcl jamie