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(2/19/04 12:16 pm) Reply
St. Cuthbert
Ok, I started a new game and I'm a Lawful Good Paladin of St. Cuthbert. I don't know to much about DnD but my DM said I'm not playing him right and I should be a little more violent. Violent is not the word he used but don't know how to desribe it. He said it has to do with worshiping St. Cuthbert. Can anyone give me a better explination of St. Cuthbert then what the PHB gives? Hope someone knows what I'm taking about because it's hard for me to explain.
Re: St. Cuthbert
St. Cuthbert... also known as mister badass...
If you wanna play a cuthbert pally, I'm thinkin' you'd be the kind of person that, upon seeing some form of injustice, proceeds to lay waste to anything and everything that has a connection to said injustice.
Hell... if you wanna be a Cuthbert pally, you might wanna start taking levels in fighter, because you're gonna be spending a very large chunk of your time thumpin' heads.
By the way, how are you "not playing him right"? Concerned with things such as "mercy" and "Violence as a last resort"? Might as well just be cleric of Rao, dude. Philosophical problems are better left for people that don't spend all of their time thumpin' heads.
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(2/21/04 11:05 am) Reply
Re: St. Cuthbert
The reason St. Cuthbert is sometimes referred to as "St. Cuthbert of the Cudgel" is due to his practice while he was alive of judicious application of "the cudgel of wisdom" - namely, beating someone vigorously about the head with said object until they either agree with you or are rendered senseless.
In D&D, St. Cuthbert is the original progenitor of the idea of "Conversion by the Sword" - although in his case, you can replace "sword" with "large blunt object" and be fairly on-target. Clerics and Paladins of St. Cuthbert fiercely maintain that St. Cuthbert is the true road to right, wisdom, and peace, and they'll beat the living crap out of anyone who disagrees. To them, evildoers are not so much bad people as ignorant heathens who probably don't have anything wrong with them that a nice healthy severe beating wouldn't cure - but they tend to mix this definition in somewhat heavy-handedly with "evildoers" being replaced by "anyone who doesn't worship St. Cuthbert and/or agree with his doctrine".
All in all, a well-played Paladin of St. Cuthbert is usually an overbearing, violent, smarmy ass. Enjoy the experience, because it probably won't be long before you're quietly clonked on the head yourself, tied in a sack, and tossed into the lake, most likely by your own party members.
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(2/22/04 9:39 pm) Reply
Re: St. Cuthbert
Ok, I played him again tonight and I turned him into Sam Jackson's Pulp fiction character. If you talk smack you get beat down. The DM said that was ok. I got to smack around a priest for talking smack about St. Cuthbert tonight. It's just me playing so I don't really have a party to worry about pissing off .
one other question though. If an evil guy gives up do I get to finish him off or do I have to accept it and turn him into the authorities? Basicly is a paladin of St. Cuthbert like judge dredd? judge, jury, and executioner?
But, should the villain attempt to throw up his hands and say "I surrender!"... it really depends on what the guy did. If he runs a thieves guild that isn't known for lots and lots of dead people, the villain will prolly be dragged before the magistrate to face justice.
If the villain and his horde razed a few towns, leaving none alive... he might want to get a new hat that can accomodate a cudgel stuck in his forehead... if he gets away...