Either way its quite obvious why we only got so few points. As wogan has pointed out on several occasions, and by how he can predict who gets the 12 points off whoever, its mostly political. Now what has just happened?? Iraque. Nuff said really.
Edited by: TheBorg at: 17/5/04 1:27
Well to be honest the song wasn't THAT good, average at best. The guitar often drowned out his vocals and the song didn't have many 'high spots' in it and was pretty much constantly droney throughout. Personally I thought Luxembourg's song didn't get as many points as it deserved.
We should learn out lesson next year and not try to push some wannabe desperately in search of a record contract here that we have been doing these past few years and go back to getting some semi-established names like Katrina + the waves who won it for us in 1997
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I dont just think it was political voting, for some it was i dunno what france didnt do to get more points as he was good. As for us i think it was in part due to the countries being in their political groupings, although slovenia and malta hmm, but it was more due to the fact that the song was poo. I think the better songs are those that manage to catch the eurovisiony pop-cheesyness in a good way but at the same time add some of their own identity to it like turkey last year and now the ukraine. Or otherwise just go for the peppy loud song song like Katrina and Dana international. However we seem to be stuck with songs that must contain with word Love and are either slow in a boring way or peppy in Jemini way which is peppy with a capital crap. Perhaps if we had a bigger selection process and good song writers we would do better. I know this may sound silly to some but why dont we get a musical person like lloyd webber to write it as they are good at dancy singing numbers with simple but good lyrics and catchy tunes, well i think we should try it atleast.
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It'll be the same next year for us, a young good looking singer (duo) with nice teeth, nice hair and a frankly forgetable entry. Whats the rule against professionals entering cause I'm sure Gareth Gates wouldn't mind doing it next year .
LUVly.
Actually I was surprised - I thought the song (which was basically a slow waltz) has huge potential - though in a film, really, with fuller orchestration.
Watching James sing it was undeniably... pleasant, and he did it nicely, but perhaps it was a shame so many slow ballads came along around that time in the evening.
I hope he does well, and I hope the song gets another outing sometime, too.
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I suppose i view things differently then. Song/performance.
James Fox song was pretty dull and needed a good kick in the pants to get it moving. But for me it was one of the songs which was performed well, the backing, the singers, him it all came together to form a cohesive sound. Other songs seemed to fall to pieces, not that they were any worse in actualy song quality, but the performace let it down.
Id rather vote for an good performance and boring song then a good song with mediocre performance. I cant stand songs sung by singer who are not really up to the task.
However we should have deffinately done better then what we did. We need an upbeat catchy song which is not corny at the same time.
Seven you have a beautiful voice, its a tru gift. The gift is from the collective, a vocal subprocessor designed to facilitate the sonic interface between borg transponders.....
Thing is, is xena warrior princes ever anything we will enter into eurovision?, it doesnt seem to be a "british" thing to do. Infact I cant think at the moment of anything we have had in the charts etc for as far as i can remember like xena.
To win we'd have to play the eurovision "game" and i dont think we ever will. Dont ask me why Katrina and the waves won it that song was poo imo.
Seven you have a beautiful voice, its a tru gift. The gift is from the collective, a vocal subprocessor designed to facilitate the sonic interface between borg transponders.....
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I think it needs not only to be good but distinctive to each country with their own cultural essence, like turkey last year and ukraine and serbia & montenegro this year for instance.,(or theres the cheesy pop but we are crap at that).
There again unless we wanna add a morris dancingness to it i think we should use another cultural background as we have such a diverse one, such as one with an indian hint. Coz you could do a great but simple song song, danceable and be able to say its from the UK (hence the hint at lloyd webber ->( A. R. Rahman)). Still though i know its silly but atleast it would be a bloody differnt change from the shite weve been churning out of the cheesy songs with Love as the key word.
And Katrina was good, the song was poo, but poo in the sense that allowed us to win rathen than the poo now that makes us not do well.