Perspective - this is a big problem for me. Why don't you understand it?
Is Nicole Kidman fat in the Stepford Wives advert? Erm no.
If people think I am fat...how can I live? Do you just not get it? I don't think you people get it....! Okay you really don't get my point. This is pointless.
You don't understand being ugly would ruin my life. Versace and J Lindberg don't make clothes for fat people. Everything else won't be perfect if there is one imperfection.
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Okay Dirrty, this is just getting absolutely pathetic now. I knew you were high up on your fashion and all that shit, but not to the point of obsession where the real value of human life is not in perspective!
You just sound completely wrapped up in the cult of celebrity and the power of fame that those celebrities have in a world where you have to be thin to be accepted - you're showing no respect for yourself or your body by being desperate to be thin, and reducing yourself to a faceless and pale version of just another wannabe!
You need to experience the real world. Visit a Third World country or live on the streets for a week and you'll know what it's like. I might be crazy of Britney and Brad Pitt, but it's not to the point where I don't forget what's important in life, and I certainly would like to think that I am an individual and proud of my unique personality, like many others would like to think of themselves!
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I am nothing if I am not unique. Nobody has ever said I follow trends, because I don't. I do something and then it becomes a mainstream trend - then I leave it and go onto the next thing. I have never thought of myself as someone who blends in but this isn't about that.
I'm not sure why this annoys me but it really does. It might have something to do with recognition, but I don't expect recognition for other things so I'm not sure why this would bother me. I am a modest, but not unassuming person, and looking good is important to me. I haven't changed and people are calling me fat and I am being victimised and thought of as something I am not.
You might think it is sad but it really upsets me that I don't get that kind of validation from them - I just don't know why I don't care what anybody thinks of other things - not ever - but this one thing is really really bugging me.
You wouldn't understand. Weight is just sacred. You can go for anything else but don't try and take that away from me!
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And the stupidest thing of all is that I know I'm not fat. On Friday I bought a vest for a 9/10 year old and it fit me and still made me look fat (because it was slightly baggy).
Don't get me wrong I'm not ugly thin like I have a problem - I look fine of course but my preferred t-shirt size is for a 12 year old because that fits best... That is what really makes this shit crazy...
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how much do you actually weigh if you are not fat? Im the opposite I think I am to thin and am desperate to put weight on as I think id look far better than being skinny!
You probably have an illness called status anxiety aswell as anorexia.
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Quote:I suggest you lighten up and be a nice to people on this board, and treat people with respect, just how you want to be treated & get some real issues!
Yes!! Never a better word spoken!
People on these boards use agony gossip as a way to ask for help with real, serious problems! And usually we get a whole host of comments of advice and then you Dirrty, come along with some nasty, attention seeking comment which might actually hurt the person who made the post!
I know Sarcasm is like a 2nd language here, but sometimes, you take it too far. And when you post a problem here, you expect us all to gather round and give you a shoulder to lean on. Has it surprised you that the majority of us have turned you away?
I seem to recall you making a post a few months ago about you changing your attitude and saying you werent going to be sarcastic or nasty anymore. What happened to that eh?
And if people are saying we are being too hard on Dirrty, well, you obviously havnt read some of the comments he's made to other real problems in this forum. [/rant]
Quote:If people are calling you fat - then maybe you ARE fat! Ever think of that?
Erm read what I just wrote in the post right before yours.
And who are all you to critcise my problem and say it isn't serious. Obviously you just all live in your little worlds and have no connection at all with reality.
Well let me tell you what happens...first people stop telling you are fabulously thin, then they stop commenting on your hair and clothes, then the calls dry up, you don't get invited to one event and then another - and before you know it you don't get invited to any of the good events.
When people stop telling y'all that y'all are thin then don't expect sympathy from me and for the record I am always sympathetic with peoples real problems and I defy anyone to name a time when I have been less than 110% pleasant.
Edited by: DIRRTY CA at: 16/5/04 17:08
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I wouldn't want someone as false as yourself to feel sympathy for me, even if you said you would.
Your ignorance baffles me, infact, it's downright embarassing. And the way you're talking about what happens if you're not thin is as if you've got a disease or your face has been disfigured! Get a grip on reality!
I wouldn't really be bothered if people didn't call me fabulously thin, and I'm not - I don't want to be a walking stick insect. And I wear what I WANT, not what people tell me to. And my hair, it might not be groomed to perfection, but it's MINE and I'm happy with it just the way it is! I don't need people or a trashy fashion magazine telling me how to groom myself, thank you very much!
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I know next to nothing about Dirrty, but one thing I can say is that he probably isn't 'just lucky' or 'not living in the real world' because he has money. At some stage either he or his parents had to work very hard for that money and status - and that's the reality. That didn't come about from sitting about in a slum and not going for what they want in life because 'this is reality' and 'this is how life is meant be'.
I hate the phrase 'living in the real world' with a vengance. What on earth is the 'real world'? Isn't it getting a bit sad when we label the 'real world' as being poor, probably living in a counsel house, and surving on Asda Smart-Price baked beans? Ok I know I was filling in the gaps there, but why set that as the standard for 'real life'? If someone has money, does that make life any less real? Any less viable as a person, or make their life any less real? It really doesn't...I know most people don't have money, but that doesn't make it more of a reality. Surely it's very self limiting setting that as the basis for life, and that's more arrogant than enjoying success?
As for judging his problem - it obviously is a problem for him, and he did no harm by posting it. It's not for us to decide how important it is. It doesn't help by getting into a game of 'my problem is better than yours', and self pitying.
It's been said that Dirrty has made sarcastic comments to other members of the group - but has anyone apart from him had an entire post hijacked by flaming?
As for Image - I don't believe that looks are important at all. Personality is what counts - it's said so much it has become trite.
However, image is a completely different thing. Not, of course, to a value a person by their image, but as a means to an end. It's probably a semiotics thing, but how a person dresses can be very important in certain fields. Celebrities, for example... Could you ever imagine Brad Pitt being a recognised actor if he was a south london scallie with a fat bum and a big nose? No less value as a person of course, but certainly more likely to be successful if he is good looking.
Sorry, I don't like to say it, but there have been many studies on it - good looking people are often seen as more successful, less likely to commit crime, less likely to have mental health problems, and look mentally intelligent.
In some fields, looks are very important.
And back to the semiotics, how a person dresses is important in this case not only to how a person looks, but to what that signifies. It's another step in self improvement if you want to promote yourself for a career or social goal - there is no harm in refining an image. Once all of life's big problems are out of the way, why not refine a gauche, bottom rate image and dress for success? It certainly isn't arrogant to learn that the way you dress can manipulate a better life, as part of a communication tool.
And on a final note, this problem aside... Dirrty seems very happy with his life - even if we don't agree with his attitude. So what's more important? To have a happy life, or to have everyone think like you? Or are we getting at him because he is actually happy, and we can't handle that?
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