Guide to raising Poison Fast and Cheap!
So you wanna raise your skill in poison, but dont have thousands of plat to do it with, and also dont have the time to spend days farming greenies for a few skill points. Here is a small guide for you so you dont have to search through the poison pages to figure it out (I know, it hurts your widdle head when you think too long)
First off, throw a couple of skill points into Make and apply for @#%$ ang giggles. Not a lot, just enough to give you something to work with. 2 or 3 will suffice.
Now to get started
Go to WK and visit Gildin Toxfodder(n3000, n13400), bring about 1k if you really wanna grind for awhile.
Start with making Athropic Sap
Lined vial
Constrict suspension
2x Alocassia root
This will take you to about 98 skill, and once your bags are all full, just continuously apply them to your dagger, you dont actually have to attack and have the poison go off before you can apply a new one, just lay those poisons on thick. this becomes trivial for apply at 106skill.
Once you have become trivial with gildin, head on over Steamfont and talk to Ennixy Frennor (p1300 n830) (remember to sneak behind the vendors when buying any poison ingredient to get a better price, it adds up when buying mass quantities) Buy as many stacks of Kings thorn as you can carry or afford, and then head on over to dagnors cauldron.
Speak to Cronium Darkblade, he is at the top of the middle island at n230, n830. Yet sometimes he is moved around, not sure why, so if hes not on top of the island, he hasnt been killed, just moved, so check the base of the island.
Here you will make Calcium Rot
Sealed Vial
constrict suspension
2x Kings thorn
This will take you to 172 skill, and you if you apply all these poisons instead of selling them back to the vendor, your apply skill should be between 130-150
This last part can be done at any vendor that sells vials and suspensions, but cronium was my favorite for a few reasons. A) Unrest is right next door, wich is great for farming zombie skins for sealed vials(the most expensive part of poison making if you buy em)
B) Lots of poison ingredients drop here that can get you from 172 to 200 once you have become trivial with calcium rot
When farming in unrest for vial skins, also save
grave mold
darkbone marrow
aminata phalloide
Once you have hit 172 skill, if you have 28 skill points that you are willining to burn, I say do it now, the cost you will spend on the skill points isnt much more than the cost you will spend to make the poisons to get to 200, from 180+ you need to make about 30-40 poisons for each skill raise, sometimes more.
If you dont have those skill points to burn, make these 2 poisons form the items you got in unrest during all your farming there
Visceral rot:
sealed vial
larent suspension
Grave mold
Darkbone marrow
wood rose (from the vendor in Steamfont, same one as kings thorn)
Essence of Rallos:
sealed vial
Larent suspension
2x amanita phalloide
Pixie dust (of pixies at pixie tower in Lfay, watch out for the brownies)
If you have tons of money to burn, and never farmed unrest for vial skins, and other components, then its time to head to FV for the last guy you will be dealing with in your Poison training.
Brak daggermist in the rogue guild n3600 p2300
Spirit of Sloth:
Sealed vial
Ethereal suspension
2x Creeper Ivy
This will take you all the way to 250, but very slowly, I dont reccomend applying these either, the poisons sell for 12pp 9gold roughly, and takes away a lot of the financial pain to sell em back. If you want to max out apply, its better to go back to one of the cheaper poisons, say calcium rot, or something without a trivial limit, and max apply with that.
If you find something better to max apply with, plz post it, as I am still at 150skill and not sure of what cheaper poisons max it out or not.
Another option is going to HH, telling anson "I want to see stanos" and then training poison to 250 him. it will cost you a lil over 100pp for each training pt after 200 skill. This is slightly more expensive than actually doing the training. Especially when you get close to 250 and nearly make a profit off of spirit of the sloth. Question is really "how valuable is your time?"
I hope this helps some of you who have an interest in joining the ranks of the proud and few poison makers of Norrath
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(8/28/01 7:04 pm) Reply
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Wow, thanks a lot. Was trying to find a nice way to max out
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Hokksin Registered User
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(9/10/01 11:31 am) Reply
Re: Guide to raising Poison Fast and Cheap!
At what skill would you recomend trying to make Spirit of Sloth. I am maxxed out with Calcium Rot. and would like to move on. SoS seems the easiest to raise skill, because I have fared over 500 skins in unrest and still dont have alot of darkbone marrow, or grave mold to do the stuff between SoS and CR. Any advice will be greatly appreciated
Hokksin
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Also Do any of you use intel or wis items while doing poisions. My wis is 86 and intel is 75, and I go pretty slow. Does those 2 help with poision, I know they do in other skills.
Re: Guide to raising Poison Fast and Cheap!
How about for the non twinked lvl 20 rogue? What is good for us to start Posioning on PvP server? Was thinking Spine break? Seems cheap and easy to learn at first. Oh, btw, where is a good spot to find Asp Poison for the Retinal poison? Must have killed 50 asps in WC and not one drop.
Re: Guide to raising Poison Fast and Cheap!
OMG thank you , Thank you Furnia. I wish I had this a few days ago I tried going to Fv with 130 skill in make and 1k came away broke 146 skill and 6 SoS.
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Morchaint Registered User
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(9/11/01 9:05 am) Reply
Re: Guide to raising Poison Fast and Cheap!
Asp poison sacs really only drop off of the cistern asps in oasis and south ro.
I'm currently at 237 make poison skill and between farming unrest for skins to make my own vials and fine steel to hock to vendors, I don't think I've actually LOST any money. I've been selling the poison back to the vendor and making iron dimethyl. (That's from around 211 skill to 237 when I was actually paying attention to such things )
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Biral Registered User
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(9/13/01 4:50 pm) Reply
Re: Guide to raising Poison Fast and Cheap!
Thanks a lot, just a few days ago i was wondering how to get this skill up, since poison making was a reason i started a rogue (even though i never got around to it, i will now :))
Re: Guide to raising Poison Fast and Cheap!
I felt nostalgic so I applied an Injected1 snake poison and to my suprise I gained an apply skill in it I am now 183 apply
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(9/19/01 9:05 am) Reply
Re: Guide to raising Poison Fast and Cheap!
raising apply reduces the failures on apply, which is not THAT important because applying does not seem to follow the same low skill = high chance failure rule as tradeskills do.
Re: Guide to raising Poison Fast and Cheap!
I will have to agree with the rest of the post: This guild helps a lot. I figured out the Atrophic Sap "trick" and I maxed with that, but I have slacked off a bit. Now I can continue.
Thanks
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Re: Guide to raising Poison Fast and Cheap!
GD i just spent 5 hours in lavastorm. why do i do these things to myself?
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Silvorn Registered User
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(9/20/01 12:20 am) Reply
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I'm working on getting from 215 to 250 make poison. Some tips I'll give.
Get a crude stein and use it when buying components. Easy to get item and 15 cha helps. Charisma adds up when you start buying 100 items.
Round up whatever int gear you can lay hands on. It makes a HUGE difference in my success rate to go from 75 int (normal) to 115 int which is what I was at the last time I worked on poison.
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Again, DE rogues are superior !!
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Ralluwen Registered User
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(9/20/01 2:41 pm) Reply
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Heard tales that Stanos is a superior teacher of skills, any chance he can train over 200 make skill? I am at 180, gotta farm some cash to train up to 200 and still have 20 points after that...
If he can train past 200 i would rather work on doing like Zek Frost, Stiffining Ergot and Visceral Rot and then use the points, i might just do that to test and save the points for apply too, but seems apply is cheap enuf to raise. Don't ask what my apply is, cuz it is sad...
Ralluwen Shadowstar
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Re: Guide to raising Poison Fast and Cheap!
Sorry to be dense, but who is Stanos?
And, assuming that we could pay for the training, can we put more than 20 points in at a guildmaster? I thought that 20 was the cap?
Thanks!
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SlegeTZ Registered User
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(9/24/01 10:19 am) Reply
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Stanos is a trainer in highpass hold who is part of the ragebringer quest. you need to be 50 and have done the piuch quest to get him to spawn