I heard a nasty rumor...
That Vex Thal was unkeyed on test atm? I really hope this isn't going to go live to all servers since I'm almost done with my key. Anyone know anything about this?
Kithkahn Entreri (Master of Trickery and Hijinx)
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They screw with keying on test and I cant recall the last time it actually implied anything for live servers. If they make access changes they historically send it live without testing it.
Rekcim Registered User
Posts: 474
(4/20/04 8:30 pm)
keys
God forbid, imagine people having access to zones!! EVERY zone should be flagged or keyed, you should be stuck in East Freeport till you collect 50000 rat skulls. Flagging/keyed zones is the greatest thing that happened to EQ. I get upset when I have too many zones to play in, I like being left behind and have time to myself.
GlobalChrys Registered User
Posts: 166
(4/20/04 9:15 pm)
Re: keys
at this point i'd be happy if all old content zones became open. Perhaps right up to the elemental level.
Its lowbie gear. Who cares who has it. Its still level restricted and no drop. So not like level 10 wizards will be running around with 5k hp any time soon. Though on that subject i wish Sony would do away with level restrictions also. Hate having to farm 2 sets of gear per twink. One set for pre 60, and another set for post 60.
With discord, you can take one group and go farm 120-160+hp items. In many cases these items are > elemental loot whice requires a full raid of 20-40 players to aquire.
Re: keys
I don't know if VT on test has been unkeyed. But the last few times VP, VT, or ST has been unkeyed on test, it was purely for getting more testers into the zones to test major changes to those zones.
So even if VT is unkeyed on test, it's probably just for testing a change to the zone and doesn't mean the unkeying will go live.
(A few months ago a test VT unkeying rumor was going around and our test_server Safehousers tested it out as being false.)
Zykium Registered User
Posts: 44
(4/21/04 1:51 am)
hmminsult removed. --GyorgEdited by: Gyorg at: 4/21/04 5:26 am
Caldiien Registered User
Posts: 29
(4/21/04 2:05 am)
Re: hmm
Quote:Grats on sounding like the family guilder that you are.
You say that like it's necessarily a bad thing... /shrug.
Re: hmm
Although there was something floating in serverwide earlier about a 3 week spawn on FV that people could keyring the sceptre... reminded me of doing something similar to smoking pot with friends..
Re: hmm
Still keyed on test, this is a lame rumor to just get peoples blood going
Sawin Registered User
Posts: 1774
(4/21/04 7:47 am)
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Quote:Grats on sounding like the family guilder that you are.
I belong to what most would call a "family guild", we just happen to raid a lot. We dont do mandatory raids and we dont use DKP and such. We are just 3 kills away from being EPlane flagged and we have skipped Ssra and VT.
Shamroc1 Registered User
Posts: 733
(4/21/04 8:04 am)
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I dont really care if they unkey zones if they revamp Velious to 65 100+++ AA. Spare me the lower level depravation theory. Like they Dragons/Giants/Coldain couldnt grind out some levels/AA in SoL/PoP/Gates.
Zymurg Registered User
Posts: 61
(4/21/04 8:30 am)
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Zykium, your attack was uncalled for and unjustified.
Rekcim is accepted longtime member of the community who did a DAMN LOT for the community.
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Being a longtime, contributing member makes one exempt from criticism?
I certainly can't condone the tone of Zykium's remark, but just as you see fit to reprimand the comment, does he not have the freedom to express an opinion?
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(4/21/04 8:35 am)
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Everyone is free to express their opinions so long as the way in which they express them conforms to the forum rules. If 2 different admins (gyorg, SX) found his comments to be a personal attack, I would think that it's fair to say his comments did not indeed conform to forum rules.
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Since the DX 9 patch VT has been pretty screwed up, I think that if they did unkey it on test it would be to fix things up a little...Last night I spent most of the AHR fight stuck on top of her head :/
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Bloodveign Registered User
Posts: 116
(4/21/04 9:07 am)
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I lack Emp key, let alone VT key, and I cannot imagaine what would happen if VT went unkeyed. I'm in a pretty large guild, and not to insult them, but we raid in big numbers.. The reason they succeed on VT raids, is because only the people patient enough to get the keys go there, and know how to play(Big guilds attract alot of.. not so skilled players). I don't say this to sound offensive, but unkeying VT will let alot of morons in, and VT is one of those zones that should be about tactics.. not zerging.
Re: I heard a nasty rumor...
There was a bug on FV a couple months back where vt, st and vp keys became dropable. It didnt take long (by soe standards atleast) for them to fix it so that st and vt were once again no drop. Interestingly they left vp dropable. If anything i would suspect that vp may soon be moer accessable (and from looks on lucy possibly revamped). However i doubt you will find this for st or vt anytime soon. Definatly wouldnt mind seeing vp open on all servers but i think vt woudl be pushing it...
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Tarachi Registered User
Posts: 41
(4/21/04 10:48 am)
Re: I heard a nasty rumor...
I had to go through the agony of doing the Emp and VT key on two characters.
You know what, it sucked. But it separated the people who should be there from the people who just wanted to be there.
In my opinion Keys, Flags, Level Required/Recommended Armor are the greatest thing to happen to EQ.
The relative "newbies" to EQ that were here before level 4 corpse rot, banded armor, fine steel weapons, hell levels and pre-group experience bonuses have almost a "get to level 60 free" card. If they want the nice armor and raiding experience, I'm all for them having to buckle down and put a few weeks or months of work in to attain that.
VT keys are easy to get these days. I know of entire guilds that keyed up in 2 weeks and had an emperor kill on their first attempt.
My last guild did a Ssra to elemental run in 2 months and achieved PoTime in 7. We had to work our collective asses off to do it and seeing people get by on freebies or nerfing of old content cheapens the pride that I had in achieving that level of progress.
I think that the 1-40 game needs to be easy and cater to the new players, but after that, I'm all for letting them get a taste of what EQ was like for the rest of us and how at one time you had to earn your right to progress.
Call it a pet peeve, but I still carry a lot of pride from my first Emp kill, or our first foray into VT, Aten, Elementals, PoTime. It meant something back when we did it.