Some people are welcome mats with short memories, some aren't. Walk a mile before judging. We're talking about someone who's responsible for the well being of kids here, and repeatedly ignoring what's best for them.
Hate to say it, if my brother joined a gang and dealt drugs, he wouldn't be allowed within a block of my house, wife, and kids. He's free to @#%$ up his own life, mine's off limits thank you very much.
Biggwin Registered User
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(4/29/04 7:42 am) Reply
Re: Another rant about my sister
I am the farthest from a welcome mat as you can get. Trust me I remember everything my brother ever did. However he is my brother and for that I will always love him and not take pleasure in his failures!
Besides the kids seemed more like an after thought to her and just something else to rub in her face that she had fubared in her life.
Btw he never dealt drugs, he was taking them. At that point in time he didn't have my parents to hide behind and I dont take crap from him so he knew that he left all his crap at the door if he is coming over!
But today he is a new man and I can actually say I am proud of him leaving all of his bs behind him and turning his life around. I am Just glad I stuck by him and was not another reason for him to fail!
The whole point was that I have walked that mile with a dirtbag brother but he is my dirtbag and I will always stand by his side!
Re: Another rant about my sister
Oh gee, just because we share the same parents, all should be forgiven? Bull.
Teens can be manipulated... And when I say that, she manipulated them for friendships, manipulated them for things, money (aka she borrowed hundreds of dollars and said she would pay them back*). My friends were the ones who told ME to watch out for HER, and back then I defended her. No more.
* she was not total strangers to these people, we played softball together, so they trusted her because she was my sister, if that makes any sense at all...
My parents finally learned their lesson. She has stolen/begged manipulated tens of thousands of dollars out of them. They finally wised up. They don't give her anything anymore. They don't hate her, but they see her as a fallen person, someone who is never going to rise above her station as community whore and mother to several horrid children.
Forgiveness is for gullible people who think a single word can solve all the problems of the world. You don't forgive people for forgiveness' sake. You forgive them if they show an attempt to show remorse for their behavior.
Good for your brother for kicking the habit. I know from my work that it's a very hard thing to do... But my sister has never apologized for what she has done, nor acknowledged that what she did was wrong, nor paid ANYONE back, etc etc...
Until she "turns her life around" as your brother has, then I am not forgiving anything. Edited by: Kinare at: 4/29/04 9:02 pm
Re: Another rant about my sister
Kinare doesn't owe her sister anything. Kinare, like everyone else, has limited life-resources and gets to decide where to invest them. It is, in the end, a zero-sum game. 5 hours on the phone with her sister is 5 hours less spent doing something else with her life.
You decide to help out your brother - cool. Its a choice though, not an answer to some higher universal moral imperative.
To me, "help your family" is no more "right" than "deal with the consequences of your choices".
Biggwin Registered User
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(4/30/04 6:04 am) Reply
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No one said anyone had the do anything here!
I just find it repulsive that you take pleasure in your sisters failings! End of story!
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(4/30/04 6:47 am) Reply
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Blood ties mean nothing when your sibling is a piece of @#%$ who lies to you, steals from you, gets violent when he doesn't get his way, and spends more time creating a deeper ass groove in the couch and making a mess around the house than you and your mother spend working for a living, and then expects you to cook and clean for him after you've come home.
When mom finally puts his stuff out on the curb and I never have to speak to him again, I will do a dance of joy.
Biggwin Registered User
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(4/30/04 8:52 am) Reply
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That is fine and dandy and for awhile in my life I was at that point with my brother and is a reasonable point to come to.
Re: Another rant about my sister
Blood relatives shouldn't get a pass just because they are family. Giving them a pass just leads them to do more bad things, because they can get away with it.
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I take pleasure in the downfall of any jerk. When I heard that one of the people in elementary school was now in prison, I thought "haha, serves them right," and I was happy because the rest of society would not have to deal with them.
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(4/30/04 12:51 pm) Reply
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Eesh.. I'm reminded of those losers on Classmates etc who track down jr high bullies to yell at them when they're 45. No one has to forgive anyone, but getting a life and moving on might be advisable for one's own happiness. Dwelling angrily on other people's misspent childhoods is laughably pathetic.
Not to claim the status of a "real professional" in any one endeavor has been a small price to pay for the many benefits and pleasures of trespassing. ~Leo Lionni
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(4/30/04 1:58 pm) Reply
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The only game of Star Wars pencil and paper RPG I ever played involved a bounty hunter who had been bullied by one of our jedi in his youth, and was out to get him and his party. Damn, that was fun.
My sister (a junior in high school) pales in comparison to like the heinous acts of your siblings, but I feel I'm not comlpetely wrong in saying she's on the way to messing her life up. While I don't hate her for it . . . Man, she's just funny as hell.
Like yesterday night she walks in, more than a little messed up, and is like . . .
"Hey . . . Uh, man . . . Man, there's like . . . This REALLY HUGE bag of weed . . . somewhere . . . somewhere in the house. So . . . like . . . if you find it? well . . . it belongs to me . . . yeah, thanks."
Koru Registered User
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(4/30/04 2:17 pm) Reply
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I gotta say, y'all make me feel great about my family. It's not often I get the feeling me and my sisters are well-adjusted or even within a light year of normal when it comes to relating to each other. I know this was not the intent, but the side effect is quite welcome over here.
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(5/3/04 7:22 am) Reply
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A buddy of mine that we always gamed with really fellin with a wrong crowd.
We were all collecting up to game and a few nights before that he said that he couldent make it. Well when we actually get together we had the news on for some reason. Then we saw his face.
He apperently held up a movie theatre as some sort of gang initiation and did a few years in prison.
I only saw him once after he got out, dang was hie different. Talked like some homeboy high on dope. Went from being a average small town kid to p-daddy-dumbass.
Re: Another rant about my sister
I have 2 step sisters and a step brother, all were somewhat abused while young (nothing huge but still) and their mother is pretty much a waste of carbon.
sister A after dealing with her problems and a few ups and downs is now married with a couple great kids and doing well.
sister B after being a total @#%$ up for most of her life, being abusive (verbaly) to her kids, using them in ways you just dont use kids, and generally also being a total waste of carbon, one day wakes up and transforms into a really cool human being, @#%$ shocked the hell out of me, I dont seem them that often, a few times a year and one day she was just BAM! normal.
brother is a write off, the only thing hes managed to improve in his life over the years is the length of time he can go between strung out on whatever he can find binges gets longer.
until your sister wakes up and answers the clue phone, you owe her jack and @#%$. I fail to see why you should invest any of your time and effort on a person with no intention of gettting their @#%$ together.
Biggwin Registered User
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(5/3/04 1:57 pm) Reply
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*cries for humanity*
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(5/4/04 7:21 am) Reply
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I care a lot more for some people I've met in passing than some of my family members *shrug*
Meecham AB Registered User
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(5/4/04 10:56 am) Reply
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Ditto on that, and I'm not going to be guilt-tripped into changing my mind, just because we happen to share the same parents.
Biggwin Registered User
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(5/4/04 11:28 am) Reply
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no one said you had to feel anything, i just find it disgusting that some people are finding pleasure in others failures and it is even worse when it is family!!!
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(5/4/04 2:24 pm) Reply
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No, Kinare. I got the point. You've been holding a grudge since elementary school, an adult still obsessing over a child's behavior. If you're gonna go on about your bizarrely lengthy grudges, have the decency to not backpedal, kk? It looks pretty foolish.
So what did this elementary school student do to you to warrant prison, anyway? I don't mean what he did criminally, I mean what'd he do to make you so mad 20ish years later. Put a toad in your desk? Dip your ponytails in the ink well? What?
It's not often I get the feeling me and my sisters are well-adjusted or even within a light year of normal when it comes to relating to each other. I know this was not the intent, but the side effect is quite welcome over here.
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