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Dubbo
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(4/25/04 12:28 pm)
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Worker Sledgemallet
I was bored and needed something to quest. Did this the long way, no charming. I'm agnostic (halfling). All faction checks were using Dark Elf illusion. I raised VS faction giving braids to Capt. Rottgrime in the OT outpost. Started at max KOS to VS faction, and max Ally to Di`Zok.

~680 braids took me to Threatening with VS (right about the same time I hit max KOS with Di`Zok, from max Ally).
~920 braids took me to Dubious.
988 to Apprehensive.
1040 to Indifferent.
1088 to Amiable.

Without illusion, I still /con at Scowl with Outpost NPCs.


Just an FYI post, if anyone's considering doing this the long way.

Qutsemnie
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(4/25/04 1:09 pm)
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Re: Worker Sledgemallet
hehe thats alot of patience.

Figuring one braid ever 2 minutes.. (which is a fast sustained pace after you figure in all the running around and goofing with turn ins). Thats 30 an hour. Thats.. alot of darn hours.

Bezubub 
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(4/26/04 1:43 pm)
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Re: Worker Sledgemallet
man I really took for granted the nec 'enslave death' or above charm, hammer took me 5 min...

Dagny Blazestorm
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(4/26/04 2:18 pm)
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Re: Worker Sledgemallet
You can buy puppet strings to get this as well. Luckily, I got mine when the faction rollover with VS was still happening from hunting in HS all the time.

Gorgwath 
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(4/27/04 6:04 am)
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Re: Worker Sledgemallet
Someone has too much time on their hands :p

skeet
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(4/27/04 8:13 am)
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Kunark Dragons...
also give faction increases with VS - but I'm thinking that braids would be faster for raising faction... :b

Elven Dancer - greenies in VP (???)
Esorpa of the Ring - VP
Faydedar
Gorenaire
Hoshkar - VP
Phara Dar - VP
Severilous
Talendor
Xygoz - VP

P.S. they moved the zone in spot for the hammer to up on top of the boat, instead of inside it.

C0REN
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(4/27/04 1:04 pm)
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Re: Kunark Dragons...
How did you turn in braids when threatingly? The guy faces a skeleton army which sees right thru Hide... Any trick to do it in-place I missed? (SoS doesn't count ~)

Arakasi Nightblade 
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(4/27/04 1:24 pm)
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Re: Worker Sledgemallet
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You can buy puppet strings to get this as well. Luckily, I got mine when the faction rollover with VS was still happening from hunting in HS all the time.


As of the same patch that changed the port in point of the hammer, you can no longer charm the guy for the quest. I haven't confirmed personally, but I already have one and several people have verified that it will no longer work.

C0REN
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(4/27/04 1:27 pm)
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Re: Worker Sledgemallet
Ya, charmed or sneaking = indifferently and you need to be higher than that (amiable).
Still pondering how to hand braids in while threatingly...

Gylan
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(4/27/04 2:21 pm)
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Re: Worker Sledgemallet
While you cannot open trade while hidden, you can finish trades while hidden. Just click off hide, get trade window up, and reactivate hide. It is pretty easy to do.

As a side note, I too did this from max kos to amiable as a halfling rogue. At level 65, I believe I earned at least 1 full AA from the doing this tedious faction quest.

Dubbo
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(4/27/04 2:39 pm)
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Re: Worker Sledgemallet
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As of the same patch that changed the port in point of the hammer, you can no longer charm the guy for the quest. I haven't confirmed personally, but I already have one and several people have verified that it will no longer work.


A necro in my guild claims to have charmed him to get his OT hammer about 6 or 7 days ago.

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Ya, charmed or sneaking = indifferently and you need to be higher than that (amiable).
Still pondering how to hand braids in while threatingly...


You don't have to be amiable to Rottgrime to hand in braids, you have to be amiable to the foreman to receive the hammer. As far as handing in braids while KOS, just stand at a good distance to Rottgrime's side ever-so-slightly in the rear arc, drop hide, and hand in as many braids as you can carry before he paths to the other side of the marines' line. If after trying, you still are having trouble finding a spot to drop hide and turn in braids where the marines won't aggro you, stand at loc +2490, +2118.

Qutsemnie
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(4/27/04 3:44 pm)
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Re: Worker Sledgemallet
heres how I do it:
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If your kos in outpost go get 4 whips in do a kos turn in on the captain to get faction. You should perfect this skill as a rogue. You can turn in completely sorrounded by kos mobs. The trick is your not sneaking your using hide and using that there isnt any instant agro in the game.


The general procedure is.

Drop hide. Open box by handing the npc an item. Rehide. This should take about a quarter of a second.

Now fill the turn in box safely while hiding. This step can be as long as you want. Your hiding with the turn in box up.

Drop hide. Hit trade. Rehide.
This should take about a quarter of a second.

And in the middle of that you should see a message saying you made a succesful turn in.


from here:
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Derrict
Posts: 2600
(4/28/04 4:24 pm)
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As far as handing in braids while KOS, just stand at a good distance to Rottgrime's side ever-so-slightly in the rear arc, drop hide, and hand in as many braids as you can carry before he paths to the other side of the marines' line.


Qutsemnie
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(4/28/04 9:39 pm)
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Re: Worker Sledgemallet
very tricky very tricky

Kanafo
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(4/29/04 9:21 am)
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Re: Worker Sledgemallet
I was handing braids in using my dark elf mask and it was working fine. but this was a couple monthes ago now might have changed now.

Marauder Jecour
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(4/29/04 9:59 am)
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Re: Worker Sledgemallet
sarnak ruins slightly NE of FM zoneline is a good place for braids..no running around, adds unlikely. 9 static spawns there, each of them has a chance of being a berzerker, and if your far clip plane >50, you should be able to see berzerkers roaming the hills nearby...

patofnaud 
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(4/29/04 10:14 am)
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Re: Worker Sledgemallet
Pay no attention to that hobbit behind the curtain!

Derrict
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(4/29/04 11:29 am)
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Re: Worker Sledgemallet
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I was handing braids in using my dark elf mask and it was working fine. but this was a couple monthes ago now might have changed now.


Depends on the race and religion. If you're a gnome, you might have no problem with a DE illusion but if you're a halfling, you're kos even with the illusion.

ponzi
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Posts: 138
(4/29/04 11:41 am)
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Re: Worker Sledgemallet
If you're having trouble with sneaking, you can always have someone lull the skellies for you. You can also hire a non kos newbie to hail captain rotgrime so his back is to you and you can turn the braids in.

Trebax Shadowstealer
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Posts: 468
(4/30/04 8:31 am)
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Re: Worker Sledgemallet
I had some cash on me, got a 10-shot Puppet Strings for 10k (which, in and of itself is a STEAL). Used 4 charges, got my hammer, and sold the 6-shot Puppet Strings in bazaar for 9k.

So, for 1k I got my hammer...and I love the thing.

Qutsemnie
Posts: 2367
(4/30/04 4:27 pm)
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Re: Worker Sledgemallet
If i cast alliance on the jade turn in guy while someone else has him charmed will that be enough faction?

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