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Yalum
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(2/3/04 1:24 pm)
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Re: A parse I did
Stanos gloves lasts 72 minutes, so that's a reasonable amount of time. How did you handle assassinates, though?

torvrogue
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(2/3/04 2:36 pm)
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Oh I didn't backstab, just AFK swinging.

aklectic
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(2/3/04 3:31 pm)
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Bagged my Epic when I got 41% haste, Sol Ro dagger, and Sparkling Shortsword offhand. I mostly raid, so the 4 magic damage on the shortsword hits often from tash. Check magelo for any other stats. I have parsed much higher since bagging.

Krekin Pimpgawd
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araxas
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(2/9/04 8:47 pm)
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Re: A parse I did
I bagged mine with ~1400 atk , augmented MDoD main, Wicked Shank off-hand since the MDoD only has 9% bs mod.

Shadoesbane
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(2/10/04 5:34 am)
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Re: A parse I did
I bagged Ragebringer 5 seconds after I looted my 41% haste bracer. I had a GRMK main and replaced Rage with a Dart of Immobility.

Marauder Shadoesbane Grimmlok
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Ddarr
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(2/10/04 12:59 pm)
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Re: A parse I did
Ragebringer bagged when I looted a GRMK. Setup is GRMK/MDoD and Clay Bracers of the Golem.

Ddarr
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joykafka
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(2/13/04 7:06 pm)
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Do you think there will be more than 5 dps more if i replace ragebringer with CoMR in off-hand and if the haste item i have is at most 36%?

Main: MDoD 16/19 (aug: dmg+2)
Off: CoMR 16 +1Di /20 (aug: dmg+1 DiDmg+1)
Haste: 36%

ATK loss: Epic's ATK plus one AoB replaced by 36% haste ==> 55 raw or 73 in effect

Haste loss: usu. less 0 (with 68% spell haste) ~4% haste (equivalent to 0~2% total attacking speed: 200% ==> 196%)

Ratio Gain: 16.5/20 (82.5%) vs 15/25 (60%) ==> 37.5% gain in off-hand attack

? Will Sinister Strikes (plus Ambidexterity) make CoMR more powerful than Epic in off-hand?

I am wondering if Ragebringer has 3 aug slots like:

type 3 (for AoB etc)
type 4 (for proc etc)
type 6 (for dmg +2 etc)
(or even type 8 for still another proc)

When we can "upgrade" epic with more dmg and effect, perhaps more of us would still use their epic :)

Thank you.

Sommeil the Deceiver @ Bristlebane
unbuffed ATK with epic: 1260

Arakasi Nightblade 
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(2/20/04 3:09 pm)
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Re: re
I bagged mine with the following combo:

-41% Haste
-Malevolent Dirk of Deception Mainhand (16/19)
-Bloodbath Offhand (16/21 - 12% Backstab mod - 25atk with 2regen)
-85 worn atk (high 1200s buffless, 1289 total IIRC, at 1301 now with 95 worn atk buffless)
-Ancient Prismatic Spear (Avatar proc)

Haven't parsed the difference yet (I just got this combo this week, bear with me), but I will be doing so soon. My original combo was Bloodbath/Ragebringer. Pretty sure it's an upgrade against PoP mobs, but with the low amount of worn atk I'm wondering if it's an upgrade against Luclin based mobs. I'll parse in VT as well and see. I'll keep you all posted on what I find.

Marauder Arakasi
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Edited by: Arakasi Nightblade  at: 2/20/04 3:20 pm
Srath the Claw
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(2/27/04 1:05 pm)
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Re: re
From what I have seen the 16/19 and Rage Combo is about equal to 16/19 and 16/21 offhand with around 1300 atk. If you raise atk higher then that then that combo outdamages 16/19 and epic combo.

ChoraRodcet
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(2/29/04 5:25 pm)
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Re: re
Just bagged mine.
was wielding MDoD/Rage, now GRMK/MDoD

41% haste from GoDS
unbuffed ATK 1357 post bagging (110 worn ATK mod)

wasn't going to bag it until i had something 16/19 or better for offhand, wicked shank didn't do it for me 16/21 + proc resulted in it's destruction, favored rage until I got GRMK then MDoD went to offhand.

Edited by: ChoraRodcet at: 2/29/04 5:34 pm
LadySalba
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(3/1/04 9:18 am)
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First 41% haste item

I was using Wicked Shank in main and Ragebringer in offhand. When I looted my first 41% haste item, the earring of endless speed off Doomshade I banked Ragebringer for Massive Heartwood Thorn. Probably had about 1250 atk at the time... much has changed since then.

Bedalin 
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(3/8/04 4:19 am)
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Re: First 41% haste item
torvrogue> the banker is green right? so a greater atk do nothing against him because yous already hit almost every time for max. Thats why you did a better dps on second parse(better off hand ratio)

do it again on the red con mob in POI... you'll see a big difference and dont forget to backstabb, it represents 40% of our DPS and a better atk grants better backstabs too!!

on one hand we got better mainhand piercing + better backstabs, on the other hand we got only better offhanding...
do the math and parse

I parsed full chaman buffed mdod main hand + rage then mdod + salindrite dagger(13/18 +263dd)
the rage combo wins by 10%
i have only 36% haste but even with a 40% haste the rage is better

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Kalathek Nevrseen
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(3/26/04 12:49 am)
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Re: First 41% haste item
GRMK - Shei poker (15/20) 'n 41% haste shoulders from earth.

Shoulders 'n switched offhand.

Edited by: Kalathek Nevrseen at: 3/28/04 2:40 am
Sharkeye Shadedsight
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(3/26/04 8:08 pm)
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Re: First 41% haste item
How about the new fssoy,

16/24 150 dd proc, crappy stats

Since I just got the weapon, I had to use it =) But only under very good buffs (HoS, VQ, NDT)!

Do you think I'm getting better dps with it offhand than rage when I'm buffed to cap str (280) and 1400+ attack?

My haste item is 36%

ps. Magelo is a bit wrong. My unbuffed attack is 1240 :x

Blargius<Gnomes of Own>

Edited by: Sharkeye Shadedsight at: 3/26/04 8:09 pm
Ddarr
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(3/27/04 10:33 pm)
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Re: First 41% haste item
I would keep Rage in secondary over the FSSOY.

Aphyd
Posts: 408
(3/28/04 9:34 am)
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Re: First 41% haste item
I bagged mine with..

41% (Clay Bracers of the Golem)
1400ish Atk
Mainhand: Dart of Immobility (16/19)
Offhand: Ancient Burrower Spine (14/19)

Srath the Claw
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Posts: 158
(3/28/04 1:56 pm)
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Re: First 41% haste item
I would not switch Rage for Ancient Burrower Spine.

Tilwein24
Posts: 12
(3/28/04 11:28 pm)
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Re: First 41% haste item
i bagged mine for 1hs from cursed after I recieved my 41% haste item from vex thall.

cursed 1hs is:

Vyzh`dra's Render of Souls
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Slashing Atk Delay: 24
DMG: 17 AC: 25
Disease DMG: 4
STR: +20 DEX: +15 STA: +25 WIS: +15
INT: +15 AGI: +15 HP: +100 MANA: +80
ENDUR: +80 SV DISEASE: +10 SV POISON: +10
Effect: Soul Leech (Combat)
WT: 2.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR RNG BRD ROG
Race: ALL
Slot 1, type 4: empty


~Tilwein 65 Rogue~

~Saviden 65 Ranger~

~Caeelil 65 Enchanter~

Edited by: Tilwein24 at: 3/28/04 11:34 pm
Srath the Claw
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Posts: 159
(3/29/04 8:26 am)
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Re: First 41% haste item
Your atk is kind of low Tilwein.. Not sure if you gained anything at all by bagging Ragebringer.

Derrict
Posts: 2432
(4/1/04 3:03 am)
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Re: First 41% haste item
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torvrogue> the banker is green right? so a greater atk do nothing against him because yous already hit almost every time for max. Thats why you did a better dps on second parse(better off hand ratio)

Don't let the green con of the katta bankers fool you, they mitigate the equivalent of a normal risk LDoN mob.

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I would not switch Rage for Ancient Burrower Spine.

He's fine banking Rage for the Spine. He's slightly below the attack break even point where the ABS ratio is enough to overcome the inferior Rage ratio & attack bonus. All the parses I made to find the break even point were with a 16-21 offhand (0.76 ratio) and the parses showed the crossoverpoint being at 1450 attack. The ABS w/o bane is 0.73, with bane 0.79 so it falls within close range of the parse setup I had done. I've got the ABS in the bank and do the parses again but I'd be wasting my time.

Derrict Thealcoholic

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