SirKevinic Registered Member
Posts: 314
(5/9/03 4:39 am) Reply
Talamild...
Take a step back and recognize that those images on your screen are fake, pixels, make-believe, not real, they can't hurt you IRL.
Now, realize that you came here to "complain" about something that happened in this "fake" world and how silly that is. Also, if people were to take you seriously...you just admitted to being KS'd by a BARD...of all things you shouldn't have done that...makes you look silly.
Lastly, flaming people/guilds means nothing at all these days. The days of drama are long gone and it only makes you look like a baby.
Have a nice day!
Much <3 for Paralon ~
buadin Registered Member
Posts: 160
(5/9/03 5:22 am) Reply
Re: Talamild...
Kevinic, mabey you should have had realized all that yourself before you sold out. Funny how everything seems to be circumstantial around here.
"The days of drama are long gone"
-Ever read the bright green chat?
Everything is relative.
<3 Kevin
Edited by: buadin at: 5/9/03 5:24:23 am
SirKevinic Registered Member
Posts: 315
(5/9/03 5:49 am) Reply
Buapoo
You and I read the same green chat for a while, in multiple guilds, the same drama has always existed...just at different levels. The relevance of it is like posting it on Tunare boards is going to make people take it seriously...come on. Basically 99% of the posting on this board has nothing to do with EQ anymore..."nobody gives a @#%$" is the moral of the story these days and it was the intention of my post to get that point accross.
I don't know the whole story about what happened which ultimately made you decide to leave and just because I didn't follow doesn't make me a sell out...you know me better than that.
Registered Member
Posts: 1733
(5/9/03 5:52 am) Reply
Re: Talamild...
Quote:I start to talk to his guild and then they Curse at me saying STFU, its ur prob. so...in Conclusion...PHUCK Cynosure!!
So, you spoke with everyone in Cynosure and everyone in Cynosure cursed at you and said "its ur prob?"
I personally didn't receive a tell last night about it, so you must have missed me in your rush to judge the entire guild based on your interaction with one member.
Quote:i used to have MAJOR respect for them, but now i see that they are just Assholes! Especially Paralon!!!
Let's try to remember something here. If you have a problem with a member of any guild it does not mean the entire guild, "are just Assholes." It means that you're having a problem with that one member. So, contact an officer of the guild and talk it out with them. Also, try to use complete sentences and avoid d00d sp3ak, so you can get your point across effectively.
Sorry you had a problem with one of my guildmates. I'm sure there's some logical explanation, as Paralon is a nice enough guy.
Registered Member
Posts: 729
(5/9/03 6:09 am) Reply
Re: Talamild...
Well he did get KS'd by a level 65 bard when he is only lvl 51. BTW the new Paralon is not the old Paralon. And if you are gonna bitch about a guild as a whole, make sure you at least talk to an officer.
Re: Talamild...
Wooooot, gogo cynosure!! Still suppressing the Noobs even while im gone. And don't let Paulo try to sweet talk u, he is most evil member there is !!
buadin Registered Member
Posts: 161
(5/9/03 6:55 am) Reply
Re: Talamild...
I think your missing the point kevin. Was so disapointed to see you post that in the frist place. The guy came to a flame board with a legitimate undisputed flame and you do nothing but make excuses about it simply because hes in your guild.
Funny how I never once heard you in guild chat sticking up for competeing guilds saying "Guyz we all just need to relax, its a game and just pixels!" Why? Because its just a game as long as your the one pushing people around.
"I didn't follow doesn't make me a sell out"
-No, what makes you a sellout is knowing the difference between right and wrong and not having the balls to make the right decision because of greed.
"-Ever read the bright green chat?"
have you? '"
-Yes, until I couldn't stand the hiprocy any longer. I'm not going to flame, I dont think I need to. Its just sad to see stupid @#%$ change old friends that you would have done anything to help.
SirKevinic Registered Member
Posts: 316
(5/9/03 7:49 am) Reply
Re: Talamild...
You missed my whole point Buadin. I am not saying Paralon did or did not do it. It won't effect me either way. I am saying that whining on this board will get you nowhere.
Quote:Funny how I never once heard you in guild chat sticking up for competing guilds saying "Guyz we all just need to relax, its a game and just pixels!" Why? Because its just a game as long as your the one pushing people around.
I am not leadership, I don't make guild decisions, and I don't have a voice in guildchat that would sway our actions anyway. The key word you used there was "competing". If I was present at said raid then I would be involved in the competition and it is most definitely situational. I was not there if/when Paralon dinged multiple times off the guardians so I have nothing to do with that incident.
Quote:No, what makes you a sellout is knowing the difference between right and wrong and not having the balls to make the right decision because of greed.
Where does the greed part come from? I guess I am not following you at this point. Being awarded loot on a raid makes me greedy?
Quote:Yes, until I couldn't stand the hiprocy any longer. I'm not going to flame, I dont think I need to. Its just sad to see stupid @#%$ change old friends that you would have done anything to help.
Not sure why you are going down this road. You can't be friends with someone that has their own opinion? You obviously want to be heard by more than me...you have my e-mail, icq, etc so it is more than just about this hypocrisy claim.
I am not flaming you Buadin nor disagreeing with you on most of your points, but I guess I was just blind-sided at the fact that you are holding a grudge of some sort with Cyno and using me as an "example" of that since we are friends. /boggle
Grecos Registered Member
Posts: 16
(5/9/03 9:12 am) Reply
Re: Phuck Cynosure!!!!
I dont know or care one way or the other about Cynosure, but i was a bit troubled by the remarks made in response to the poster.
1. Ever hear of being guilty by association?
2. Ever hear that you are known by the friends you keep?
If you have heard of either of these cliches and Paralon did in fact do this and there has been no action taken...you, as in EVERYONE in Cynosure, is guilty for not reprimanding him. So not recieving a personal tell does not excuse you or your Guild from acting accordingly regarding responsibility as you knew it happened and posted on the topic here.
In response to handling the matter directly with the individual...take a look and in the original post it says that they sent DIRECT tells to Paralon and when they recieved responses back of "i dinged i dinged." They THEN contacted members of Cynosure. Maybe they got an officer maybe they got just a regular guild member, i dont know or care, but to recieve tells back of "its ur problem" speaks volumes for your guild membership
In response to the BS argument of "but its all fake" OMFG is there any argument you could make that sounds or smells even more like BS than this?!?! Yes, the picture you see is fake, the terrain is fake; However, the person behind the character is a person and SHOULD be held accoutable for their actions...the fact that you don't see it that way lets everyone know where you stand...maybe that is the reason you were called a sell-out. Im sorry if I am wrong as i don't know your history and this is in noway a personal attack merely an observation.
If i may ask a question? When either of you 2 were in other Guild(s) ( Paulo and SirKev ) IF this same thing happened to you or your group how would you react?!?! If you say you would shrug off and go about your merry business i call BS, if you would come to the flame boards..or ANY board and stir things up then you Sirs, are hypocrits nuff said.
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Posts: 1735
(5/9/03 9:35 am) Reply
Re: Phuck Cynosure!!!!
Grecos,
Quote:1. Ever hear of being guilty by association?
Yes, and claiming the guilt of one based solely on the actions of another who is loosely related to them at best is a weak argument at the very least. If you'd like to make a claim about an entire group of people based on the actions of one simply due to a flag they have over their head then you're a fool.
Quote:
2. Ever hear that you are known by the friends you keep?
Yes, of course. This still does not lend credence to the idea that the entire guild is a bunch of "Assholes" simply because one member may or may not have done something less than shining (please note that we've also only heard one side of the story here, for all we know this could simply be someone who's pissed off about something else or simply a big misunderstanding).
Quote:If you have heard of either of these cliches and Paralon did in fact do this and there has been no action taken...you, as in EVERYONE in Cynosure, is guilty for not reprimanding him.
Wow, I hope you're not in law, that is quite possibly the most ridiculous statement I've read here in a long time.
Also, since when am I personally responsible for "reprimanding" said individual when I was:
1. Not there.
2. Not privy to the entire story.
3. Not an officer or leader for my guild.
Do you reprimand people based solely on the unsupported statements of someone else or do you wait and see if there's more to the story than the original individual stated?
Quote:So not recieving a personal tell does not excuse you or your Guild from acting accordingly regarding responsibility as you knew it happened and posted on the topic here.
What are you talking about? The first I heard of this situation is when I opened up my web browser this morning and saw a thread entitled "Phuck Cynosure".
Quote:IF this same thing happened to you or your group how would you react?!?!
I would contact the guild leadership, then petition a GM. Hell, I just might walk away from the situation given there's only about 3,000,000 places you can get at least as good exp as that camp. Coming here to post a badly worded flame does nothing but make you look like an idiot.
Grecos, I have a long standing with your guild and know them to be good people. By your own standards, though, given your post here I could automatically assume your entire guild is a bunch of jerks because of your post (especially given the fact that you're an officer)? Does that make any sense to you?
That's right, it doesn't make sense.
I'm not defending Paralon, personally, I don't care. I'm questioning the idea that anyone can make the logical jump from 1 person's actions = 1 guild's actions. In my opinion, this sort of thing should be handled by the people involved. Tunare in general doesn't care, so what do you gain by running here to cry?
Paulo
buadin Registered Member
Posts: 162
(5/9/03 9:38 am) Reply
Re: Phuck Cynosure!!!!
"the fact that you are holding a grudge of some sort with Cyno and using me as an "example" of that since we are friends. "
-Don't speculate. I have no grudges and have the ut-most respect for 3/4 the members in Cynosure.
SirKevinic Registered Member
Posts: 317
(5/9/03 9:54 am) Reply
Re: Phuck Cynosure!!!!
Quote:
1. Ever hear of being guilty by association?
2. Ever hear that you are known by the friends you keep?
Give me a break. I share a guildtag with him...I don't live with him.
Quote:In response to the BS argument of "but its all fake" OMFG is there any argument you could make that sounds or smells even more like BS than this?!?! Yes, the picture you see is fake, the terrain is fake; However, the person behind the character is a person and SHOULD be held accoutable for their actions...the fact that you don't see it that way lets everyone know where you stand...maybe that is the reason you were called a sell-out. Im sorry if I am wrong as i don't know your history and this is in noway a personal attack merely an observation.
In other words, don't take it so seriously, damn. It's a game. I am not saying Paralon was right or in the wrong I was not there. You know how many people get KS'd, hurt feelings, drama drama that exists out there? Imagine if everyone came and posted their crap here? omgz! The only reason was to take a dig at Cynosure...or at least that's what it seems, hence the PHUCK CYNOSURE! as if we all went into PoN to KS your mob ffs.
Quote:If i may ask a question? When either of you 2 were in other Guild(s) ( Paulo and SirKev ) IF this same thing happened to you or your group how would you react?!?! If you say you would shrug off and go about your merry business i call BS, if you would come to the flame boards..or ANY board and stir things up then you Sirs, are hypocrits nuff said.
Yes, I have been in other guilds and know a lot of people. I have been playing this game for 3 years...you think I have never been KS'd, trained, ripped off, lied to, etc? Of course I have, but I wouldn't come up on the flame boards and announce it and call out an entire guild for one persons action. If they became a problem I would /petition /report and then move onto another hunting spot.
If I was sent a /tell in game I wouldn't shrug you off nor have I ever. Do I stir the pot? Sometimes. Am I a hypocrit? Sometimes. Am I human? Sometimes.
zH KroNiK Registered Member
Posts: 8
(5/9/03 10:34 am) Reply
Re: Phuck Cynosure!!!!
roflmao... an entire group of people gets KS'd by a single bard. And it happens over and over. You have several options, 1. find a new camp and xp instead of complaining to the person's guild. most likely to random people who really dont care 2. go post on a message board about how the actions of 1 person made you change your opinion about an entire guild.
Instead of doing the easy thing and just finding elsewhere to xp after being KS'd (omg i'm still laughing over this) by a bard, you go complain and bitch. This is a game, this is for fun.
"1. Ever hear of being guilty by association?
2. Ever hear that you are known by the friends you keep?"
Omg, i've heard of these cliche's! By association... lets see that could be anything. We all play everquest, we're all associated, therefore it's everyone's fault? Known by the friends I keep.. yes I've heard this. And? My friend took some pixels from that guy, suddenly we are bad people? omg, i'm going to hell for KS'n you.. I must repent!
Seriously, it's a game. I'm being an a**hole right now for a reason, to those that know me I'm really not. you make a stupid post, you're gonna get stupid replies.
btw, congrats on the ding paralon!
-Tonnerre Edited by: zH KroNiK at: 5/9/03 10:44:46 am
buadin Registered Member
Posts: 163
(5/9/03 10:47 am) Reply
Re: Phuck Cynosure!!!!
zH KroNiK
I had a big reply typed up explaining how wrong your post was, then realized that everyone else who reads it knows how full of @#%$ you are anyway. I'm sure even the people arguing against the origonal poster can see that~
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