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Illystra
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(8/15/03 1:30 am)
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Researchers help define what makes a political conservative

BERKELEY – Politically conservative agendas may range from supporting the Vietnam War to upholding traditional moral and religious values to opposing welfare. But are there consistent underlying motivations?

Four researchers who culled through 50 years of research literature about the psychology of conservatism report that at the core of political conservatism is the resistance to change and a tolerance for inequality, and that some of the common psychological factors linked to political conservatism include:

Fear and aggression

Dogmatism and intolerance of ambiguity

Uncertainty avoidance

Need for cognitive closure

Terror management
"From our perspective, these psychological factors are capable of contributing to the adoption of conservative ideological contents, either independently or in combination," the researchers wrote in an article, "Political Conservatism as Motivated Social Cognition," recently published in the American Psychological Association's Psychological Bulletin.

Assistant Professor Jack Glaser of the University of California, Berkeley's Goldman School of Public Policy and Visiting Professor Frank Sulloway of UC Berkeley joined lead author, Associate Professor John Jost of Stanford University's Graduate School of Business, and Professor Arie Kruglanski of the University of Maryland at College Park, to analyze the literature on conservatism.

The psychologists sought patterns among 88 samples, involving 22,818 participants, taken from journal articles, books and conference papers. The material originating from 12 countries included speeches and interviews given by politicians, opinions and verdicts rendered by judges, as well as experimental, field and survey studies.

Ten meta-analytic calculations performed on the material - which included various types of literature and approaches from different countries and groups - yielded consistent, common threads, Glaser said.

The avoidance of uncertainty, for example, as well as the striving for certainty, are particularly tied to one key dimension of conservative thought - the resistance to change or hanging onto the status quo, they said.

The terror management feature of conservatism can be seen in post-Sept. 11 America, where many people appear to shun and even punish outsiders and those who threaten the status of cherished world views, they wrote.

Concerns with fear and threat, likewise, can be linked to a second key dimension of conservatism - an endorsement of inequality, a view reflected in the Indian caste system, South African apartheid and the conservative, segregationist politics of the late Sen. Strom Thurmond (R-South S.C.).

Disparate conservatives share a resistance to change and acceptance of inequality, the authors said. Hitler, Mussolini, and former President Ronald Reagan were individuals, but all were right-wing conservatives because they preached a return to an idealized past and condoned inequality in some form. Talk host Rush Limbaugh can be described the same way, the authors commented in a published reply to the article.

This research marks the first synthesis of a vast amount of information about conservatism, and the result is an "elegant and unifying explanation" for political conservatism under the rubric of motivated social cognition, said Sulloway. That entails the tendency of people's attitudinal preferences on policy matters to be explained by individual needs based on personality, social interests or existential needs.

The researchers' analytical methods allowed them to determine the effects for each class of factors and revealed "more pluralistic and nuanced understanding of the source of conservatism," Sulloway said.

While most people resist change, Glaser said, liberals appear to have a higher tolerance for change than conservatives do.

As for conservatives' penchant for accepting inequality, he said, one contemporary example is liberals' general endorsement of extending rights and liberties to disadvantaged minorities such as gays and lesbians, compared to conservatives' opposing position.

The researchers said that conservative ideologies, like virtually all belief systems, develop in part because they satisfy some psychological needs, but that "does not mean that conservatism is pathological or that conservative beliefs are necessarily false, irrational, or unprincipled."

They also stressed that their findings are not judgmental.

"In many cases, including mass politics, 'liberal' traits may be liabilities, and being intolerant of ambiguity, high on the need for closure, or low in cognitive complexity might be associated with such generally valued characteristics as personal commitment and unwavering loyalty," the researchers wrote.

This intolerance of ambiguity can lead people to cling to the familiar, to arrive at premature conclusions, and to impose simplistic cliches and stereotypes, the researchers advised.

The latest debate about the possibility that the Bush administration ignored intelligence information that discounted reports of Iraq buying nuclear material from Africa may be linked to the conservative intolerance for ambiguity and or need for closure, said Glaser.

"For a variety of psychological reasons, then, right-wing populism may have more consistent appeal than left-wing populism, especially in times of potential crisis and instability," he said.

Glaser acknowledged that the team's exclusive assessment of the psychological motivations of political conservatism might be viewed as a partisan exercise. However, he said, there is a host of information available about conservatism, but not about liberalism.

The researchers conceded cases of left-wing ideologues, such as Stalin, Khrushchev or Castro, who, once in power, steadfastly resisted change, allegedly in the name of egalitarianism.

Yet, they noted that some of these figures might be considered politically conservative in the context of the systems that they defended. The researchers noted that Stalin, for example, was concerned about defending and preserving the existing Soviet system.

Although they concluded that conservatives are less "integratively complex" than others are, Glaser said, "it doesn't mean that they're simple-minded."

Conservatives don't feel the need to jump through complex, intellectual hoops in order to understand or justify some of their positions, he said. "They are more comfortable seeing and stating things in black and white in ways that would make liberals squirm," Glaser said.

He pointed as an example to a 2001 trip to Italy, where President George W. Bush was asked to explain himself. The Republican president told assembled world leaders, "I know what I believe and I believe what I believe is right." And in 2002, Bush told a British reporter, "Look, my job isn't to nuance."


www.berkeley.edu/news/med...tics.shtml

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Long time no see, y'all.

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Gaunt Akera
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(8/15/03 6:31 am)
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Re: For Paulo and the other conservatives...
Nurf hibs.

PauloAlDeln
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(8/15/03 6:40 am)
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A liberal quoting a Berkeley study on Conservatism is almost as bad as a Conservative quoting a RNC study on Liberalism.

Unbiased it isn't lol.

Anyway, since some people have me pegged as an ultra right winger, here are my stances on my hot political topics:

Death Penalty - against it. It's out of date, it's stupid.
Abortion - against it. Get a @#%$ condom or get a spine. Take responsibility for yourself. Don't give me the, "what if she's raped," BS either. If you want to base your argument on a statistical outlier then your argument sucks.
Taxes - lower them. Business and individuals are far too overtaxed in this society.
Homosexual Rights - equal rights. I don't care who's screwing who, who you're attracted to, whatever. Who cares. do what feels natural to you.
Immigration - the borders should remain open. "Bring me your tired masses," is as important today as it was in the early 1900s.
Big Government - government needs to stay out of people's lives as much as possible. Don't pass laws concerning parental rights, etc.
Education - if there is one issue that needs to be addressed immediately it's education. Public school systems need a complete overhaul, and throwing money at them is not the solution (despite what the Democrats may want you to believe). In Rochester, the city school district is budgeted ~$52,000 per student in the school system, and they still can't get a respectable number of their kids to do remotely well on standardized testing. $52,000 is enough to send a private teacher to each house for a year. Something is majorly wrong in appropriations.
Social Programs - the sick need help. Those who can't support themselves need help. People who get laid off need help. Senior citizens and ex-military deserve help. Lazy people do not need help. Weeding out the lazy from the deserving is, of course, the problem.

That article is so biased it's relevance is completely negated. I'd love to see who their focus group was and get more details on how they came to these remarkable conclusions.

After all, I could focus on the fact that Democrats love playing to the, "They'll take away your Medicare," scare tactic and say, therefore, that all liberals feed on fear, but it wouldn't be correct.

Silly article. I hope Berkeley doesn't make this the standard for the future.

Paulo

PS. /wave Illy~ Long time no see. :)

Edited by: PauloAlDeln at: 8/15/03 6:41 am
Emodius
Rudy
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(8/15/03 7:22 am)
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Democrats love to ask for socialized medicine until you ask them how to pay for it.

Actually Id love to see it implemented myself, but I wont pretend I know how to fund it, and I am not stupid enough to suggest it without having a solution.

-It should also be noted a study on Liberals concluded they are prone to thinking with their penises, and adultering.

-Having their actions controlled by cowardice towards war, since they don't have the stomach for it.

-Being too stupid to see the big picture or understanding that 'means' have to have 'ways'

-Being stupid

-Wanting to hand people who don't want to work jobs and money (although giving it to the people who want to and can't is great IMO).

I pretty much agree with Paulo on everythign he said. The one exception is the death penalty. Some people are bad, and cannot be rehabilitated. Not only that, but our prison system is not set up to rehabilitate, it is sent up to punish. Death is a deterent to most people. I think it is appropriate. I think the Europeans are pussies for abandoning it. Theft and murder are FAR less common in Saudi Arabia than here, and the reason is their overly harsh laws and penalties. I am not suggesting we go to such radical extremes, but clearly such things deter crime. NOTE: I do not condone cutting the hand off of a starving man who stole bread to feed his family, but I do condone doing so to anyone who worked at Enron, and was involved in the scandal.

Riverrblade
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(8/15/03 7:30 am)
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My penis is thinking again! Damit!

Emodius
Rudy
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(8/15/03 7:31 am)
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Actually I am FOR abortion in most cases, as long as it isn't "birth control".

It isn't a woman's body or right to choose. You're killing a living thing, but who am I to stop you? You wanna live with that on your conscience, go for it. Until there is a law against it I will not stop you.

Having seen many people who have gotten abortions, however, I can tell you that getting rid of the "inconvenience" that is a baby (from HER perspective) does more psychological damage to the woman than any flame I could write against it. You wanna kill your kid, go for it. Of course it can be argued that in the first couple of weeks/months it is not technically a baby, and that IMO is a huge very gray area. I do not know if it is wrong at that point, but a woman knows she is stopping a life that is forming. The question is, is it life at that point? Either way, it doesnt matter. If a woman is going to get an abortion she will do it sooner rather than later, so the thrid trimester abortion for the purposes of after the fact birth control, which IMO is CLEARLY wrong, is hardly ever an issue.

You got raped, will die, or have a totally farked up kid, what will live on life support for 10 years then die anyway? By all means, kill it. I seriously have 0 problem with that. This is odd for a conservative, but all too often people side with their retarded partisan politcal affiliation and do not think for themselves.

Emodius
Rudy
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(8/15/03 7:34 am)
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pls. My first post clearly demonstrated the ignorance towards the apparent docotomy between the liberal and conservative movements, and the propensity of their respective constituants to ignore the inherent duality of making broad assessments based on some minor historical happenstances with no reference and source data. Do not take offense, YOU ARE OK!

Riverrblade
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(8/15/03 8:48 am)
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I don't take any offence! But I do hate it when me dick thinks for me!

trongstoutheart
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(8/15/03 9:39 am)
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Paulo you hit the nail on the head. At least you read it, as soon as I saw it was written in Berkeley I thought the same thing and just skipped it. No way in hell it was going to be unbiased.

I'll start giving Liberals more respect when the admit that they were wrong about Sen. Joe McCarthy.

Before you liberals get bent outta shape do your research on Alger Hiss and the Rosenbergs along with the rest of the Commies that were praised, defended and made to look like victims. Then do a Google search on "Vanona project". You might be surprised to see the results and how, to this day the DNC defends those people as victims.

As far as my views on the critical issues:
Death Sentence - If you have so little respect for anothers life, why should we care about yours.

Abortion - Only in cases of Rape, Incest and where the life of the mother and/or baby would be lost if carried to full term. Not to be used as a birth control method.

Socialized Med - NO WAY!!! Want to control the cost of medical care, place a cap on malpractice suits. Not one cap for all cases but level the amount paid to the seriousness of the case. This would force the lowering of MMI and should lower the cost of medical care.

Immigration - Come to the US. All I ask is that you do it legally.

Public Education - Doesn't work. More money will not solve the problem. Return the rights of teachers to discipline the students. Remove forced bussing and return the schools to the communities that surround them. Give vouchers to people that want to send their kids to private schools.

Iraq War - Regardless if WMD's are found or not the guy (Saddam) was killing 500 (avg) of his own people a day. He had to go. I believe WMD's will be found. Afterall we are looking for easily moved, easily hidden weapons that Iraq had over 12 years to move and hide in a country that is roughly the size of California.

Social Programs - Don't take my hard earned money and give it to someone who is too F**king lazy to go out and find a job. Even if they are working for min wage they are at least working and there are jobs out there.

Vindi

Aloysous
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(8/15/03 11:13 am)
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I love the delusional thinking that goes on when you discuss
things in a term of PARTY X vs. PARTY Y...The overly
simplified and overly irrational stuff that gets said just blows
my mind...I dont like either party..I think they both suck.
Both parties only care about their donors..Neither really
"cares" about anyone..And neither really represent their
home turf..They only perform for their party and their donors.
I vote for "None of the Above"... The republican party has
tottaly reveresed themselves and gone from "small government and no citizen interference" to trying to bloat
out the Fed. gov. to tremendous size with new agencies and departments...And passing a shitload of intrusive and
right reducing laws.So much of the "Party of Lincoln"..
...Not that the Democratic party is any better..Anytime someone sneezes they are looking for something to blame..And if its a company, all the better.
They also are nutty about new laws someone farts and they
wanna enviromental impact study and a regulation....Not to mention the silly and frivilous "investigations" into the other political party just for spite and political revenge..All of which means crap to anyone but useless political talkers and their followers. Both of which blindly follow party lines...I say,
stap back and look at what your arguing for and against..
Neither major party is worth a crap..And the small ones
cant compete..

ALoysous

Enchanter of Stuff..

Nahallac Silverwinds
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(8/15/03 11:56 am)
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/CHEER PAULO! :)

As far as abortion goes - its not my right to tell you what to do with your body/kid etc. Any law passed to stop abortion is government interfering in the lives of individuals and families and its bs. And No, it should NOT be used for birth control.

That being said I agree with everything else Paulo said.

You skipped one thing tho! Military! I don't like this and I don't think you will either: sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2003/08/14/MN94780.DTL&type=printable

Lets cut their pay! I think that is BS.

Edited by: Nahallac Silverwinds at: 8/15/03 11:57 am
VinadierElvenknight
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(8/15/03 12:20 pm)
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Hmm, regarding the first post which classified conservatives as people who support traditional moral and religious values...
I consider myself to be pretty right-wing. My friends in RL consider me to be pretty right-wing ... however, I completely disagree with the idea of supporting traditional moral and religious values. I support individuality... I sure as hell don't agree with the hardcore religious fanatics who think that listening to Twiztid causes people to grow up to be serial killers.

As to my views on other major political issues:
Death penalty- Support it. IMHO, there are some people who deserve to die because of what they did.
Abortion- Against it, mainly because I believe that people should be responsible for their actions. However, I do believe it should be allowed if the woman was raped, or if giving birth to the child would likely cause the death of the mother and/or child.
War in Iraq- I 100% supported it. Saddam needed to be stopped. He was refusing to cooperate with UN inspectors, and he murdered his own people in ways that you normally only see in a horror flick.
Government- While it is the duty of the government to maintain law, order, and justice, I think that they should just let us live our lives how we want. Let's not forget how this country got started, eh?

Vinadier Immortalus

Illystra
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(8/15/03 1:10 pm)
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I was hoping you'd pick up on the humor of the post, Paulo. ;)

I'm not quite liberal enough to believe the article, myself. :P

And Gaunt is just unhappy that Albion needs 100 people just to form a gank group.


As far as my governmental views..

Death Penalty - I fail to see how the death penalty is inhumane when compared to spending the rest of your living days in imprisonment.

Abortion - My body, my choice. Deal with it, guys.

Taxes - Graduated flat rate. No more bitching about which class gets screwed more.

Homosexual Rights - Allow marriage between them. They deserve the legal benefits in regards to insurance, next of kin rights, etc. that heterosexual couples take for granted. Then again, it makes me wonder if many homosexual couples would like the fact that they are homosexual to be made public record via a marriage license.

Immigration - Let 'em in, just make sure it's done legally.

Big Government - Leave my rights the hell alone. And stop using your religious preference to make policy, Mr. Prez.

Education - Stop making it so damned politically correct and multicultural, and get back to teaching the 3 R's and facts instead of opinions and "how-do-you-feels". When you look at an American math book and it has 500 pages, with a lot of it being essays, fluff, etc, and a South Korean math book that has just under 200 pages, teaches the same material, and the fact that S. Korea outranks us in math scores constantly, you begin to see the issue here.

Social Programs - Welfare needs a 6 year limit, and provide enough money for someone on it to support themselves, their family, and pay a reduced state college tuition rate. If you can't get a degree and training in 6 years, you don't deserve a handout any longer. Benefits can be extended to supplemental income if the person gets a job.

War in Iraq - Still waiting to see the threat to us, or the weapons of mass disappearance. Saddam needed to go, but then again, so do about 30 other leaders in this world, but they don't have oil in their country, nor have they threatened the current President's father. Needless to say, we're leaving them alone.

In addition to that, the lack of coordination and planning has led to a clusterfuck in which the US is losing even more face in the Arab world.

The war itself was executed perfectly. The reasoning for it and the aftermath leave much to be desired.

Medicine - Socialize it using Belgium as a model, not Canada.

Ibannez Fivestring
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(8/15/03 3:26 pm)
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Death Penalty - Agree with it....partially. Personally, I think they take too long to carry out the sentence. The methods have completely changed as well. Lethal injection? Hell, they even sterilize the dam needle! What the hell is that about? Afraid the corpse of a murdering scumbag might get an infection?

Abortion - Raped? Green light. Any other time? Hellz no.

Taxes - Just keep everyone...yes, everyone at one set percentage. As inflation grows, so will taxes...and at the same rate each year.

Homosexual Rights - All this talk about "everyone is created equal" is crap. If this country really wants everyone created equal, then homosexuals should be treated the same as anyone else. Same goes with race, religion, etc. More on "equality" later....

Immigration - For now, fix our problems first. After that, put a stricter standard for people getting into this country. If you can't speak English, you better hit the books and try again later. When I read about a hispanic fellow calling 911 and didn't know any english, and dispatch didn't know spanish, thats a problem....and its not the 911 dispatcher's problem. We should not have to learn a second language just so that we can understand what foreigners are saying. If i wanted to move to a country that didn't speak english, I would learn their language before I went.

Social Programs - I like Paulo's idea on this one. If you're lazy, you're outta luck. Period. Notice this kinda ties in with immigration *cough* Cuba *cough* Mexico.

War in Iraq - Saddam had to go, whether or not we find WMD or not. I believe they're out there....keep in mind, Iraq is the size of California....we're not gonna find them overnight.

Race issues - Martin Luther King Jr is turning in his grave. He wanted EVERYONE to be treated equally. That is all. Look at what we have now...Affirmative Action running rampant. That whole concept is just stupid. They say that it equals things out, but in reallity, its just a legalized form of reverse discremination. Its everywhere...in jobs, in colleges....its out of control. Most any application you see has that "race" section, and at the bottom its says "We are an equal opportunity employer". Bullshiz. People like Jesse Jackson running around isn't helping anything either. Only making them worse, simply because he's up in a company's ass cause they hired a white guy instead of a black guy. Guess what Jesse, if that white guy is more qualified, then he gets the job....and thats the bottom line. This especially goes for jobs that put you at high risk of injury and/or death. Affirmitive action is simply a form of favortism, and that is not making things equal. This country really needs to start seeing people as people, as Americans....not as black, white, etc. We are all the same! Affirmative action promotes the idea that we are different, that we aren't the same. That my fellow Tunareans, is what Martin Luther King Jr wanted all along....for us all to be the same.

Edited - added a few things that came to mind while I was at work.

Edited by: Ibannez Fivestring at: 8/16/03 4:57 am
Mondayn
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re
Hmm, I haven't involved myself in a political class. Maybe someone can tell me what i would most fit in?

Death Penalty - Prison systems are so over crowded, what should we do? Hand out more death penalties. All for it, I love the idea of killing people who deserve to die. One less cent for me to pay for them to live.

Abortion - This is a hard area. I'de honestly have to say for it. Your choice, you are carrying the baby. However, if I had a child with a women, and she wanted to abort it. I would not allow it. Booth parents must consent on this since it is their child. (dont know if this is already true)

Taxes - Government has to get money somehow...

Homosexual rights - I don't care just don't hang around me or invite me to your wedding thanks.

Immigration - Send them all back to their country. Being in texas I see alot of this. If you don't want to take the time to learn our language and force me to learn some of yours then you need to get the heck outta my country.

Government - I pay you taxes, you should work for me not you use me. Legalize drugs (my body, same can be said for drinking, smoking, abortion , etc) I think it's just a way somehow to traffic money who knows.

Education - Major improvements. Europe has some of the best examples of educational systems that work. Specifically Blegium and France.

Social Programs - Good for people who deserve it. You abuse it I personally would love to send you to some program and make you less lazy...maybe the military.

Iraq War - Who cares? It's great entertainment to me. And it's one less person we have to worry about. And more fortune for us if we do get their oil.

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I gotta get some `o this..
Abortion:I am for it. Reason is: Women have been terminating unwanted babies in one form or another for thousands of years. The women of India ( for example) would squat over a small bowl filled with acrid smoldering wood and insert a funnel-like device into themselves. The smoke would go into the uterus area thereby irritateing the lineing and causeing a miscarraige.Needless to say this would often cause severe infections. Then there are various herbs etc one can take to induce a miscarraige and of coarse the good 'ol coathanger. If a woman is going to have an abortion it should at least be safe and clean.What pisses me off about the abortion subject most however is the fact that the FATHER of the baby has NO say-so in the decision ; yet if the child is born he is required by law ( as he should be) to provide support.

Death Penalty:I am for it. Dont you love the argument some nitwits give that" killing this person won't bring back the victim?". Well, as far as I can tell keeping their sorry ass alive won't bring the victim back either. Death is a deterent....ask any lowlife that has been put to death..

War in Iraq:I support the war. I do think we should have sealed the border with Syria sooner as I believe 99% of these cowards that are playing hit-and-run with our troops now came across the border soon after the war started. Fact is:the fanatic Islam fighters only respect one thing...force. Show weakness too these assholes and it will only provoke them more.


Tye

Nahallac Silverwinds
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Death Penalty - Agree with it....partially. Personally, I think they take too long to carry out the sentence. The methods have completely changed as well. Lethal injection? Hell, they even sterilize the dam needle! What the hell is that about? Afraid the corpse of a murdering scumbag might get an infection?




LOL did you know they actually prep the area of the injection with iodine/alcohol too?

Edited by: Nahallac Silverwinds at: 8/16/03 6:22 am
Seryne
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How about they do that because it's humane? You do know not every person put to death was guilty of the crime they were said to have commited.

Ldar 0001
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/rolls eyes
Good to see you again Illystra.

Hate the crap articles though. Not like anything we agree on or disagree to will change a damn thing, especially on a flame board of all places. Politics here?,....laf~ Sorry to be negative to you folks, I think I'm more of a realist.

We are very similar in thought though, was suprised.

Ibannez Fivestring
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death
Death Penalty = Natural Selection. Lets face it, if you're dumb enough to leave such an overwhelming amount of evidence that you're not only found guilty as all hell, but they decide to put you to death for it, then maybe you're too stupid to be living in the first place. Personally, I think the death penalty should stay the same as it is now...pretty much only using it on murderers. Some people want it applied to rapists, child molestors, etc. Naaa, let those people go to prison...that's the death penalty in itself. Gives them a preview of what's to come when they arrive in hell. Those are the kind of people you'll see dead in their cell with a broom handle shoved in his arse.

Finkle Hairypaw
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(8/17/03 8:12 am)
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Oh~
Speaking of the death penalty, anyone seen that movie The Life of David Gale? It's really good - deals with the death penalty in Texas. It has um... Kate Winslet, Kevin Spacey, and I'll be damned if I remember that other guy's name....

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