the fang is'nt the only source of your ire, but your seniority is. It must hurt you bad that people have forgot how senior you are?
Loot in Kunark is rarely seniority is it tho? Is this what bugs you too?
Oh and I cant wait for Botb either....
kiemo Registered User
Posts: 979
(10/2/00 10:08 am) Reply
Re: To those staying.
See Danur this isnt the game.
I would love nothing better then to be able to be in game right now. But see like many, I am
at work and I dont think my company would appreciate me playing EQ while at work (nor could
I given the limited connection speed I have). So I am left with visiting these boards in between
writing snippets of code as a way to associate with the game while I am at work.
So its no as easy as 'forgetting about this and playing' =)
BTW I am still waiting for any wizard spells to be distrubuted to me on any of the
Trak raids I attended. Damn only 53, not worthy yet =(
Another BTW - there is loot in Kunark? Well why the hell didnt someone tell me this?
Can we just drop the negativity.
The post was intended to be positive. If there are bitter people leaving and don't think it was then fine that is their opinion. Please just let it go and lets do our best with the people we have in the future.
Re: Can we just drop the negativity.
But negativity is fun! Specially when it fucks around with a server you don't play on anymore. Kinda like how I don't play on Tunare, and Aleal doesn't play on Tunare but we can sure make it negative for you people who do play on Tunare.
I'm having a blast with this thread.
Qhue, it's possible to prove a negative. For example, "There's no $100 bill in my pockets." Proof. Well go ransack through my pockets (just don't play pool).
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(10/2/00 10:41 am) Reply
Re: Can we just drop the negativity.
Bah, and you missed my point completely in our discussion Qhue. The point was that she WOULD be awarded one over me, for no reason other then parthanon. I hope everyone of you saw that quote. Not because she was more deserving, or for her efforts, but because Parthanon had a dry run of loots. Jesus man, open your eyes.
And yes, When I say that I want to make a new system, I mean that with the help of everyone. But _I_ will be actively promoting this, with helpful quotes like you just gave me. If you ask me the future of Tunare is bleak. I wish I could portray that. Most of what I say isn't to those in these guilds, its to those not. If you guys that stayed want a fair system, I suggest you make your own.
Keep attacking me la~ There are 26 in taliman? Im still waiting to hear from a few. I think all in all talisman has some great people. But instead of just attacking me because I attacked your leader, why don't you ask yourself what and who it is your are stepping on. The facts are all on this board, interpret them how you will. In a couple of days I will be nothing more then a Troll on the board(ps how do i get in Evercrack Darrian? ;P ) And what will I matter? The reason half of you are getting pissy is because im taking away from your little world and Im exposing that Tunare is not this happy little place where everyone works together.
Re: Can we just drop the negativity.
Of course I'm right. I'm always right. That's because I only state the obvious. And that makes me right. Obviously.
Re: To those staying.
LOL
Aleal you make me laf...
Do you realise that Siala had been to EVERY raid until this one? How many have you been on? How many have you missed?
She has earned that item 10 fold...esp over you, I'm sorry but its the truth. It has nothing to do with Parthanon, shes busted her butt off at these raids to EARN one. You see, she spent her time leveling in Kunark. And with these levels she has helped us kill VS and Trakanon along with helping on smaller ventures. Meanwhile you stayed down in the low 50's so you could kill Naggy and Vox over and over. But, it should have gone to you right? Your more senior....
PS> DON'T drag Siala's name through the mud!
Wine
Sephrana Registered User
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(10/2/00 11:00 am) Reply
Just clearing up a few things..
Aleal said:
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Keep attacking me la~ There are 26 in taliman? Im still waiting to hear from a few. I think all in all talisman has some great people. But instead of just attacking me because I attacked your leader, why don't you ask yourself what and who it is your are stepping on.
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There are more than that in Talisman, especially considering you have to have 28 yes votes in order to get into talisman, I think gendal told me they have 35 active members. That leads me to my second point. Fumin does not lead Talisman. Gendal does.
Re: Just clearing up a few things..
Fumin is an officer. One would assume that an officer leads with some authority no? At least he posts on the officer board.
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(10/2/00 11:12 am) Reply
Re: Just clearing up a few things..
Actually, Siala missed the same raid that I did. I am not dragging her name though the mud. I just didnt feel like she would _clearly_ deserve something over me. Show me how I dragged her name in the mud please. I have always respected her as a equal. She just levels too fast! yay, even wine is attacking me. Should we discuss how you have missed several raids and were awarded a tooth over miro? Oh, that hits home, Im sorry. Yes, he has never missed _any_. Check your facts before you flame. la~.
I'm really sorry you feel that Siala "potentialy" getting a robe over you has anything to do with her guild affiliation. (Potentialy I say as it hasnt even droped) I like to think that we've been friends or at least acquaintances since your fear raids so I tell you as one friend to another, she earned the robe more than you.
While Wine isnt entirely diplomatic in her assesment that you sacrificed levels and experience in Kunark to do Nagafen and Vox, the fact remains that she is correct. There is no good or bad in that decison, it simply 'is'. I surely hope this doesnt make up much of your decision to change servers but the simple fact is that Siala is most likely the most senior wizard on Tunare at the moment. This is no slight to you, but an accolade for her.
Yes yes, I know, its all about my guild tag so my words carrt no weight for you anymore but when she pulled out a 5+ level lead over you she passed you on the lists of who gets what. Before you cry foul I'd hasten to point out that I've suffered by this as much as you watching BPs go to Nakoro and Sedain who were neither Talisman, Nor Krieger, Nor Parthenon but were 5 levels higher than I.
Abs
Edited by: AbatoirRedux at: 10/2/00 11:21:41 am
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(10/2/00 11:19 am) Reply
Re: Just clearing up a few things..
I will go toe to toe with any of you with facts. In case you didn't realize I always cover my ass. Keep your flames coming, it only shows how 2 faced some of you are. I know that in my time on Tunare, I was a fair leader, irregardless of Guild or friends list. Can you say that about the same people you follow? Can you look past your guild to see the people getting stepped on? You should honestly be ashamed of some of you for even posting, the smart ones are keeping their mouth's shut.
Was Shaere right? lol. Id like to coin a new slogan for some of you. "Bought and paid for". Remember that and ask yourself what was your price.
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Posts: 1730
(10/2/00 11:32 am) Reply
Re: Just clearing up a few things..
Which goes back to level != seniority. Siala is an amazing wiz, and a good person. Im sorry if some of you feel like I was attacking her. And I respect your opinion Abs. I think you are fair. And I thought you got screwed out the bp too =)
Even if I wanted to stay, which I do not, I fail to see what level has to do with anything really? It's effort and contribution. It wasn't just vox and nag for me. It was VS, vox, nag, Trak, Sever, raid X where I went to. But surely some of you will say that I do only for me. Which I think is sad. I have stated and will state again, that the main reason I am going is so I can *help* make a fair system for others. I don't like hearing my friends say they get screwed, and I don't like watching others. The miro's, lav's, Xeno's, Seandar's, Shylote's, Abatoir.
I would argue these points over pawn picks, that it is a Manna Robe, Trak Tooth, whatever is irrelevant. Why can I not question a decision before it was made? Fumin is happy to see me go, as I am sure lots of you are now. Why? because im calling bs on this "fair" system. I have lived high level life. Devoted it to mostly helping others. I can get what I want outside of the normal circles via my trading efforts. I have seen nohthing out there that will make me a better wizard. Equipment is marginal for a wizard. But im sticking with it.
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Posts: 441
(10/2/00 11:35 am) Reply
Re: Just clearing up a few things..
Do not take *my* silence as agreement, I disagree whole heartedly with you. I think your whole idea of logic and facts is laughable. People believe what they want to, then drudge up facts and suppositions to support themselves for any justification. This swings both ways of course, i do not try and pretend it does not.
Personally most of your ire i believe stems from your disbelief in levels playing any part in seniority. I disagree with you on this too, to an extent anyways.
Anyways, I always had fun grouping with you, so good luck on Drinal.
Re: Just clearing up a few things..
I'm going to love this. Aleal doesn't get moved and we get to watch Fumin "clear the slate". It's going to be interesting. Raf.
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Posts: 1731
(10/2/00 11:50 am) Reply
Re: Just clearing up a few things..
Maybe you are right about the levels Gen, I dunno. In almost every instance where I brought up a fact(drudged, brought up, however), I was not given an answer of why I was wrong, I was flamed. Perhaps that says something? I have been friends in game with most of you posting this stuff, never having said one thing, but I attack the loot system which you sit on, and now I am your worst enemy. Go figure. So either post a fact, retort, do something. But flaming me and just saying "you are SOO wrong aleal" is not going to cut it. I have only presented facts, and only been flamed for it. If you say I am a bad, unfair, greedy person. Tell me how and why. 95% of what I do I do for others. But I will only be remember by those of you at the top as that bitch who pointed us out!
My plans are to get a point system on Drinal. That takes away the eyeballing seniority aspect. You do the time, you get rewarded. I don't think you will see "person x in this guild gets 4 points" Don't believe me? Go read what Qhue said. There will be no gray areas. Can you say that for your system?
ThoggDlogg Registered User
Posts: 67
(10/2/00 11:50 am) Reply
Re: ahhh
Well just s few observations before i leave
TUnare MAY be the oneserver with no mega in house guilds but i would venture to say its the most opressed server i know as far as trakanon goes
Wether or not your a uber guild charon you and uriah have enough of the post 55 croud in your pocket that when somone else wants to do trakanon YOU STOP IT from happening at least the uber guilds on other servers let people try just to fail
NO YOU GUYS ask and even TELL people NOT TO GO
DO NOT LIE and say you dont or i will repost the talisman board where you both admit it discussing if you should do it to gobs cause you were mad at him .
This is the reason im leaveing.. That and the fact that in your meglomoniacle mind you think your secondary is more deserving then people who have 200 + days played on there primary just cause well your charron.
Sorry i remember the days when you were the greediest smith on the server. Buying your way to good items instead of earning them.
I remember when venen me and some others THREW you out of the cazic throne room cause you were squating it to sell rubicite even though you had what droped there already.
SEE venens im a tunare loyalist post on the main if you even dare call me a liar
I remember when me and thamaz were runing fear and every 15 seconds while i was pulling i would get < charron tells you . Pull more tents i want my armor man please >
I remember you tellign me you want the heart and soul you think you "DESERVE IT " lmao your a twink warrior wtf should you deserve the first fa war weapon
Your a good spin doctor you make yourself look good and fair but in the end its all about what you can get for yourself.
I have ever taken a single item outright in a riad NOT ONCE i random for them YEt the fair and almighty charron does it any time there is a item he wants. of course im the server asshole because i dont agree with that you know.
OH and alendora they havent doen trak because they been too busy sucking fumins ass to get him the first war fa and helping there budies do the fa quests and because they know with everyone in there pcoket no on else CAN do him so they will leave him there and wait
I can name mulitple people who went to every scouting trip that have yet to be ON ONE trakanon raid what was there deaths plat and risk worth to fumin and uriah?
NOTHING they werejsut a exspendable slave to step on .
good ridens to thsi server and the sheep who follow a two faced leader.
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